problem accessing this group

From: "jo"

Your problem *IS* Google!

news:alt.comp.software.financial.quicken

news://nntp.aioe.org/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken

David H. Lipman said

LOL, this has been discussed ad-nauseum in another newsgroup. All the google-gropers are up in arms.

Get a real newsreader and abort GG. You'll be happier.

I don't think one person can be the judge of another person's technical happiness. I had no complaints at all about Google or its Group until this past week. Perhaps on some cosmic scale, I OUGHT to learn about newsreaders and newsgroups, but my health isn't the greatest and I have limited time for a new learning curve. I have just as much technical curiousity as any former IT person, but less time for indulging it.

As for getting a "real newsreader", apparently Windows Live Mail has built in capabilities for this because when I clicked on Dave's second link, it automatically downloaded 300+ topic headers. I hate using something I don't understand, and I have only instinct to tell me how to work with that newsgroup download, but it allowed me to see the posts until things rectified themselves tonight and I'm back to looking at the group in, to me, the least complicated way. I hope it lasts, but I'm not holding my breath.

That said, which newsgroup is the one that contains all the "up in arms" google group users? I would like to see what people are complaining about.

jo

From: "jo"

• The vast majority of Usenet spam eminates from Google
• Google profits from spam and thus takes NO action against spammers
• Becaused of the abuse that comes from Google Groupers *many* will summarily filter out ALL Google Groupers. Thus you will not get the replies of very knowledgeable people because they will never see your Google based posts.
• Google Groups is just a web page and when you use a Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) client you access the group via TCP port 119 and you actually bring tghe full headers and/or headers and body to your PC which medans you don't have to be online and can read and search the group for information.
• NNTP clients can uses regular expressions and rules to filter objectionable content and persons and can "killfile" trolls and spam.
• NNTP clients bring the wealth of Usenet to you. You can access 10's of thousands of news groups. Some like the binaries are NOT carried by Google. therefore you don't have access to some very good groups. Ask Han about the Woodworking Binaries news group which is NOT on Google or some really good photography binary news groups.

I gave you access to gthe AIOE news server. It's free. It doesn't carry the binaries but it does carry numerous excellent text only, discussion, news groups.

jo said

I think it might be related to an "upgrade" in GG - and a cookie stored on your PC - retaining the decision to use the "upgraded" version - which has issues. Maybe you clear cookies on browser close?

Fair enough. I bought a used Treo 650 smartphone (LOL) a year ago and love it. (Other than the endless taunting from my peers). Sometimes "better" is not always "better". I dread the day it fails and I have to upgrade. ;-)

rec.games.pinball - some of the issues are with RGParchive - yet another USENET front-end replacement. Most seem to be with GG, but I confess, I didn't follow the threads enough to know the details.

All the best!

Hmm. I'm an occasional frequenter of that group - fearsome traffic on there. What issues have been reported? Curious now. I use usenet clients myself, mostly iOS (Newstap on iPhone/iPad) or an older copy of Unison on OS X, so will have missed anything Google Groups-specific.

Cheers, Ian

Until the next time Google screws up the groups.

And there will be a next time.