Quicken shifts to software subscription model?

Is that true?
There's an article on the Computerworld web site that says it is the future of Quicken.
$90 year for Canadian customers, unknown price for US customers.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3166212/software-as-a-service/quicken-shifts-to-software-subscription-model.html
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On 2017-02-06 3:01 PM, Fred wrote:

What a colossal pain in the ass to us Canadians. Unfortunately the Canadian market is so small, the new owners of Quicken probably don't give a shit.
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replying to Sharx35, Soon-to-be EXQuiken wrote: Ridiculously expensive ($90/yr) and if you don't pay, your file becomes read only. Extortion! have uses Quicken since DOS version
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Moneyspire is a very good Quicken alternative and is not a subscription. Lots of Quicken users will be interested in taking a look at Moneyspire. They have a free trial at http://www.moneyspire.com
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On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:54:13 PM UTC-5, Sharx35 wrote:

According to Quicken FAQ, 2017 will work (downloads, etc) until April 30, 2020 so we have time to find an alternative, or perhaps Quicken rethinks their model.
It has also crossed my mind that they might 'mess with' the ability to d/l transactions by making changes that won't be available to Q16 and Q17 users. I wouldn't put it past them.
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On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 8:35:12 AM UTC-8, Quicken Hostage wrote:

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2020 so we have time to find an alternative, or perhaps Quicken rethinks t heir model.

l transactions by making changes that won't be available to Q16 and Q17 use rs. I wouldn't put it past them.
I'm inclined to agree - can't each them, never accetps my PW, no longer wil l DL my cash management account. And other roblems - each month it's alwas something. But I have figured out how to get the info I want (and Quicken provided more than I need, into Excel - easily, an with very comprehensible results. So goodbye to Quicken which I have used since maybe v. 2 or 3.
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Scary. I don't mean the price. I mean     But if customers do not renew their subscription, they will     lose more than just access to downloads from their bank.     "While you can continue to access your data and run reports,     you'll no longer be able to download transactions, OR ADD     MANUAL TRANSACTIONS [emphasis added]," a FAQ said in reply to     a question about what happens when access to Connected Service     ends.
Link to that FAQ: https://www.quicken.com/support/quicken-canada-order-questions
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 23:54:13 +0000 (UTC), David Arnstein

I don't like software that suddenly stops working all by itself.
Even though I just upgraded to Q2017 Premiere, I've starting looking for a Quicken replacement. I want to have the new software in place before the Quicken extortion^H^H^H^H^H^H subscription fee starts.
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Good luck, there isn't a replacement that I've found so far...
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Due to all of the software bugs in the last few versions of Quicken that I've purchased (say, last 7 to 12 years), I've lowered my expectations and usage requirements for a home finance program.
Indeed, the UI of Quicken has become more of an annoyance lately (especially the low contrast text in the 2017 version)*, so I've been seeking and finding other ways to accomplish the same tasks.
I've been playing with Moneydance, and so far it has been looking pretty good.
------ * - I understand that low contrast text has become a mainstay of Web 3.0 style, even so I cannot understand why. Why do content providers intentionally make things more difficult to read?
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Probably worth pointing out that the current 2017 version of Quicken will continue to be functional for a number of years. The only known limitation is that Quicken won't do security price downloads after 2020.
The unknown is when a Windows update will keep Quicken from running. Or when your financial institution decides to stop paying Quicken to allow One Step Updates.
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:55:31 -0700, Arthur Conan Doyle

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limitation is

Won't it also stop doing bill payment after 2020? And won't it also stop doing One Step Updates of bank accounts, credit card accounts, etc. after 2020. I don't know for sure, but I thought so, and these are two of Quicken's most valuable features for me.

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:55:31 -0700, Arthur Conan Doyle

So the 2017 version will continue to work just as it does now into 2020 without any subscription fees?

I hope the major banks will see the wisdom of not turning off theri customers. The only reason we stay with our current bank is the Quicken access and bill pay.
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:08:38 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@nada.com wrote:

Your comment touches upon an important point... if Quicken decides to go down this path of overcharging its users and potentially locking up the users' data files so that cannot be written to, then the world of personal money management software will adapt to the new reality.
Perhaps other products will step in and fill the void.
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Maybe but less convenient. Likely to lose one-step update and online billl pay.
Moneydance and Moneyspire both allow you to download OFX (Quicke format) data, and you bank likely has bill pay directly through them. Not as convenient as Quicken but workable if you just want to monitor and ercored your activity for checking accounts.
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On 2/11/2017 11:36 PM, XS11E wrote:

Have you looked at GnuCash? It is different, the GUI is a bit dated, but it has good reviews, is free, there are versions for Windows, OS X, Linux, and seems to be well supported.
https://www.gnucash.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuCash

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What sets Quicken apart from GnuCash, MoneyDance, AceMoney, etc. is relationships with financial institutions. With Quicken, you can directly download transactions from a large collection of banks, brokerages, and so forth. The collection is sufficiently large that if your financial institution is not included, it is feasible to replace it with a financial institution that is.
GnuCash has a facility to communicate with banks over the internet, but you have to hack it yourself. I tried it and I did not like it at all.
With Quicken, you can update any number of financial institutions in one go. Because this is so convenient, you can do it every day. There is no better way to deal with the problems of identity theft and other financial fraud. Just last month, I was subject to an ACH fraud, a first for me. I caught it 24 hours after the fraudulent transaction occurred. The next morning, I called my bank and got the gears turning. The problem resolved last Friday.
To put it crudely, Quicken has me by the balls. Until they do something really awful (like copying my personal data to their servers) I will just take it. The slang definition is BOHICA.
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 06:03:34 +0000 (UTC), David Arnstein
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Yes! For example, if my bank stopped doing that, I would switch to a different bank.
But if my brokerage house stopped, I couldn't switch to a different one unless I switched financial advisors, which I don't want to do.

And to me, the big advantage is that monthly reconciliation, which was a fair amount of trouble and took a while back in the days when I had to do it on paper, now takes just a few seconds.
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What he said!
I look upon Quicken as I do MSFT Windows, it's necessary. It doesn't matter if I like it or not, I need it and nothing else can replace it!
BTW, David Arnstein, I'll need Quicken even more when that nice Nigerian Price, Colonel Mogambu sends me the 25 million he's going to send... <G>
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 06:03:34 +0000 (UTC), David Arnstein

MoneyDance seems to support a lot of banks though perhaps not as many as Quicken
http://infinitekind.com/fi
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