Windows 7 Home Premium x64

"Sam Spade" wrote in news:4c7fcff7$0$31280$ snipped-for-privacy@cv.net:

I use Xnews to get usenet newsgroups. There are many other newsreaders, but Xnews does what I need, and it's free.

Omea reader (freeware) runs fine on win7 and displays this newgroup with no problems

Hi, Sam.

For the first time since Win95, at least, Windows does NOT contain a newsreader program.

WinXP (and prior) had Outlook Express. Windows Vista had Windows Mail. Win7 has none. Microsoft says you are free to choose any mail/news program you want from the many options out there.

Microsoft does offer Windows Live Mail, which will run on WinXP, Vista or Win7. Its interface is similar to OE in many ways. If you'd like to use it, you can download it free (along with several other components of what Windows calls Windows Live Essentials: Messenger, Photo Gallery, etc.) from:

Windows Live Essentials

Or you can choose the beta version of the forthcoming "Wave 4" of the Essentials; the link is on that page.

(It's kind of like if Ford told us, "We no longer include a radio in new cars, so you are free to buy the one of your choice anywhere in town. But if you will drive around to Service, we'll be happy to install ours free.")

Once you have a newsreader, you use it to subscribe to this Quicken newsgroup just as you did in previous Windows versions. Find a Usenet news server that carries this group, then subscribe to it. My ISP (Grande Communications, here in San Marcos, TX) bundles mail and news into my monthly fee, so I just subscribe at news.grandecom.net, but you'll have to check with your own ISP. Or do a Bing or Google search for "free news servers"; there are hundreds of servers, and many are free. Also look among the hits for reviews by subscribers to the different servers.

RC

I use Thunderbird as my newsreader. I tried Windows Live Mail and hate it.

Thunderbird sucks. Windows Live Mail has always worked just fine for me.

jo wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

I would suggest to stick with Eudora. Use the simple features and then learn the more sophisticated ones. What is there that is more than you need? If you have only 1 email account, Eudora works just fine, but it can use and differentiate many email accounts. Just don't let the trash, in and out mailboxes get too big and full. They get fully loaded into memory and older computers might than muff things up. Just "transfer" emails as needed to other mailboxes, even if it's as simple as "read" and "sent". Also set Eudora to "compact" mailboxes hen you close her, so some database cleanup occurs. This latest will result in final deletion of completely trashed email, so if you want to save what is in the trash, transfer it to "garbage" or something like that. NOT to "junk" because Eudora uses that for training spam and undesirable emails.

If you have questions about Eudora, answers are given in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, almost always within a few hours to a day.

In case you missed it, I am a Eudora fan.

Overgrown adolescents still in rebellion just love to dis anything to do with Microsoft. That is theessence of their issues.

They both can do roughly the same functions. WLM can decode multi-part binary messages while thunderbird can not. I am having problems getting TB to forward binary images I find in newsgroups. WLM handles these just fine.

The biggest negative (for me)is I don't like WLM's new multiple inbox setup (one set per e-mail account). I would rather have the old OE single set of inbox with user created folders to sort/store the messages. If you only have 1 e-mail account (I have numerous accounts) then it is not a problem but when you add multiple accounts the amount of screen real estate gets cluttered quickly.

I downloaded the WLM Beta version. Unless I am missing a setting somewhere binary images show up as thumbnails in the header region. You have to double click on the image to get an external program to launch so that you can see the full size image. Very annoying....

So for now, I use Outlook for my e-mail and Thunderbird for newsgroups. If I need to combine/decode a multi-part news message then I will use WLM. I also have 40Tude Dialog installed for heavy duty binary newsgroup viewing.

jo wrote in news:8e289292-559b-46d1-bfa6- snipped-for-privacy@b34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

The archiving you want to do is probably very, very simple in Eudora.

In Eudora you "transfer" all the messages you want to archive to what I would call "archive-1" to a mailbox that you create with the name "archive-1". This will then have created 2 files on your system: archive-1.mbx and archive-1.toc. After the "transfer of the emails from wherever they are, you close Eudora (important), find the archive-1.mbx file and copy (important) the archive-1.mbx file to a new file named archive-1.txt. If you don't copy archive-1.mbx and then start editing archive-1.mbx directly, the file may not show properly anymore as emails in Eudora.

Opening archive-1.txt in Notepad, or whatever program you prefer, shows you all the emails you had transferred in 1 file. Individual emails are separated with a couple of carriage returns and "From ???@???" as socalled separators. There will (I think) also be plain text html in the file but what you'll see will depend on the program used to view it.

One caveat: When you delete emails in Eudora, Eudora does the following with the 2 files comprising a "mailbox". Nothing is done to the mbx file containing all the emails in that mailbox, but in the corresponding *.toc file the "deleted" emails are marked so Eudora will NOT display them anymore. This is a way to recover deleted emails, even if the trash is emptied. But you may not want this. To remove the "deleted" emails, you need to have "compacted" the mailbox from within Eudora before you copied the mbx file. I have set Eudora in the options to automatically compact mailboxes hen I close the program, so it is not an issue for me.

It sounds really much more complicated than it is.

That requires more information, do you mean "Eudora" a fairly decent email program from Qualcom or do you mean "Eudora" an overlay of T'Burp from Mozilla?

I've run both and they are two *very* different programs!

XS11E wrote in news:Xns9DEA6C45CE4F8xs11eyahoocom@

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With Eudora I mean Eudora, latest version is 7.1.0.9.

(Th)undora, also called Eudora v. 8, is NOT Eudora but Mozilla Thunderbird with a Eudora-like GUI overlay.

Unless you need non-US character sets (Cyrillic or so), Eudora would be my choice .

Thanks, it's become necessary to mention which, I think. Qualcom Eudora seems a fairly decent program..

Plain T'burp seems much preferable IMHO.

free MicroPlanet Gravity is a good and flexible newsreader on my Win 7-64 bit.