Cameron shows his naivety again. What a useless idiot.

Whenever I'veen that program they usually get the buyer the property at below the asking price, so i fact she is helping decrease house prices!

It's suposed to be a buyers market so you would expect to get below asking price. I don't watch all their progs, though the missus does, but from what I have seen the great negotiaters Phil and Kirsty think they are being daring asking for 5% off whereas I'm seeing many owners cut prices by 10/15% and still not selling.

In one recent location prog Kirsty and Phil encouraged the buyers to offer 350k in a sealed bid on a property with a guide price of 250k. These buyers won the bid but later found out by accident that the next highest bid was almost 100k below theirs ! Not surprisingly they pulled out.

K and P can be very damaging to your wallet.

Unsurprising, after people have seen a fair number of houses the ones they are likely to want to buy are likely to be the ones that will command the highest price (Or narest to asking price) , all other things being equal.

Didnt see that one. I suppose that was in Scotland (because it was sealed bid??) From what I've read, in Scotland, 'guide prices' on sealed bids are nearly always a long way below what the property actually goes for, so maybe they were just unlucky and had a small no of buyers in that case? Or perhaps "hands up" K&P screwed up on that occasion, no one is perfect. They've also showed K&P having low offers turned down as well so you cant say they arent making low offers.

IMO it should have been David Davies, brought up by a single parent on a council estate, done a load of different jobs, seems to me to be the sort of qualities which are desperately-needed in today's politics.

He does seem to have more 'substance' to him than Cameron but the useless Tories opted for Bliar Mark II : 'Dave' the shiny-faced, PC, casual, tie-less, middle-of-the-road, multi-culti-loving, 'metrosexual'. I suspect many of them are already beginning to regret it.

In message , Tumbleweed writes

Then we hear that the buyer decided not to go ahead. If those two had ever approached me as an agent, they would have got short shrift;

"We'll make an offer of "X" provided you take the property off the market and cancel this afternoons viewings"

I cant believe agents are naive enough to fall for this, and they dont actually have time to comply with the estate agents act by getting their clients instruction in writing.

The whole thing beggars belief.

In message , Crowley writes

Does that mean he couples in the back of an Austin?

Actually he was launching a series of policies to help first-time buyers. Doing so with a well-know TV personality in the field is just sensible politics.

Cameron nailed Blair at PMQs.

Either you don't have children, or you don't care about the ones that you have. Most fathers take some time off when they have a new baby.

I'm just reading that at least Cameron's wife Samantha grew up on an estate..... oh dear, I see it was a 300 acre estate, owned by her father wealthy landowner Sir Reginald Sheffield.

A well-known TV personality who has made a living out of ramping house prices to the detriment of those first time buyers

LOL

Paternity leave then 'flu' there's a pattern emerging here. When's he going to put a full week in ?

" snipped-for-privacy@privacy.net" wrote

Or a Manchester Tram?

That is ridiculous. She wouldn't last long on her kind of programme if she did that.

In fact Cameron usually nailed Blair at PMQs.

The 'pattern' is of a father who cares about his newborn baby and then caught a cold. It's not as if he was spending three weeks in Barbados. This sounds like sour grapes that the Conservatives are getting some momentum.

Come off i, she works for Channel 4 half their content is property programmes ramping the market

Granted he started off well but has since gone off the boil and in Cameron's last 2 PMQ's Blair, sadly, regained the upper hand.

Not at all, I would like to see him beating Blair and taking on the Government as it is crucial for the health of our country that Nu Labour don't win another election. I realise you're a Tory and you want to support your leader but you must be a little worried that now the honeymoon period is over Cameron is revealing signs of being all front and little substance.

If it was Scotland they wouldn't have been able to pull out. The convention there is that bids are not "subject to contract": you make an offer, buyer accepts, contract is made.

Robert

No such signs; what we have are published principles for policy, detailed policy in a few areas, like first-time buyers, and wide ranging policy reviews including outside experts. Hardly 'all front'. Most importantly, the Conservative party is doing fine in Council by-elections and in the media generally. The way you 'nail' Blair is by beating the Labour party at the ballot box, and that is what Cameron is about.

Even if that was true, which it obviously isnt, but we'll let your hyperbole pass, you'd have to demonstrate that the specific show she was on 'ramps the market'. Since in most cases they try and pay under the asking price, and often talk about things such as how the fact that a property has been for sale for some time gives them leverage to offera lower price, self-evidently they do not talk prices up.

I'd like nothing more than to see Bliar (or his relacement) hammered at the ballot box but I'm not sure Cameron's got it in him. We shall see.

Hello Crowley

Labour will not survive the next General Election.

Mabon Dane

Kirsty and Phil did a programme 3 or 4 months back when they visited 10 towns across the UK and claimed (ludicrously) that house prices in all of them would rise by between 50% and almost 100% in the next 5 years eg Hull to rise by 47%, Bleaunau Ffestiniog to rise by 97%. If that's not ramping then what is ?

As for their Location programme their idea of a "cheeky offer" is 5% off ....... in a buyers market ! Often they advise the clients to offer the asking price to ensure they 'don't lose it' See my example earlier in this thread where they encouraged an offer 100k above the next one.

Admittedly they have gone slightly more bearish in recent months (well Phil has) but they can hardly do otherwise nowadays can they, even they are finding it hard to deny that the credit fuelled party is coming to an end ? I doubt they're the ones left with the debt hangover though.