House Prices ?

He didn't want to risk going down those streets!

Peter Saxton from London snipped-for-privacy@petersaxton.co.uk

Not a patch on Coventry.

The University isn't up to much, but faced with a choice of living in London, spending half the working day in traffic jams and paying through the nose for everything or living in Hull, commuting to work in 30 mins (on a bad day), being able to park within 10 mins walk of the city centre without paying and knowing the names of your neighbours, it would be an easy choice.

"Hull is like a lot of the north but maybe a bit more extreme." What's this "more extreme"? Further north perhaps?

"All the houses in an area are of very similar standard. I'm talking about miles and miles of houses." You are comparing Hull to London! In Hull if you travel for miles and miles you end up in countryside or the sea, depending which way you go.

There are parts of the city I would not want to live in, but there are such parts in every city. There is also plenty to attract people to the place. This last year I have been working in Suffolk, regularly travelling to London. Invariably I am glad when the days in London are over. Next month we are moving back to Hull and the hope is that it will be a permanent move.

Please do not knock a place you don't know.

Beats Edinburgh

Surely you have to admit that the variety of entertainment and other activities on offer is much greater in London?

With Hull being flatter it was easier to build miles and miles of similar terraced houses and then when they became slums they built miles and miles of council estates on the outskirts of the city.

I think you will find that there is a larger proportion of green in London than than Hull. Hull has three major parks in its boundaries and that's it.

I think Hull's a great place and if that's what you want to do I'm sure you'll be happy. I must admit I prefer to see the deer in Richmond Park after a few minutes drive. In Hull I think you have to make a day of it and cross the Humber and pay to get into a stately home for the easiest chance to say hello to deer.

I'm sorry but you've just made yourself look very silly!

I was born in Hull and lived there for the first 21 years of my life.

Born in Hull, lived there for 21 years. Lived in London for 30 years. Does that make me a "southerner"? Maybe it does.

Does "we" imply you are a "northerner"?

What makes you imply you are a "northerner" and me a "southerner"?

To be honest I dont stick labels I go by facts. But I'd like to know how your brain works to imply I'm a "southerner" yet you are a "northerner".

I agree with Dave on that philosophy, too.

I disagree on his disregard for reality though!

This gave me a clue

Maybe it was bigger then. Today it's no more than 5 miles from one side to another and today there are deer in East Park.

I notice you are avoiding the questions that show you dont know what you are talking about.

You imply that you are not a southerner yet you are working in Suffolk and presumably living in or near there. If I am living in London and you live in or around Suffolk wouldnt that make us both southerners by your definition?

You said "Please do not knock a place you don't know." yet that was totally without foundation and you are trying to avoid accepting it.

You really make a fool of yourself coming on newsgroups making silly comments and then not being grown up enough to accept you are wrong.

Hull is at 8 or 9 miles wide from eastern city boundary to western (or vice versa). When I said miles I maybe should have said "a long way"!

I didnt know there were deer in East Park. Do they roam free like in Richmond Park. I couldnt imagine that because East Park isnt very big and there is a lot of open access and many busy roads near. Richmond Park access is more restricted and although there is one busy road near it is a lot safer.

This tells me two things.

1. You regard yourself as a Londoner.
2. You want everyone to know it.

I have no objection whatsoever to either point. As I have said in a = previous post, I see Hull as my home city.

--=20 Sertch me!

Fair enough if you include Hessle, Anlaby, Bilton, etc.

To be honest I've never got into the question of which city is better for deer to live in. I just took a look on the internet to find the nearest deer to Hull. I expected it would be outside the city. Next month I'll take the family to find out everything.

For the cost of a terraced house in Richmond you could get maybe 10 terraced houses overlooking East Park. The deer in Hull wont be wild deer but you pay your money and take your choice.

It means I am in London now. It's not "bragging" - I don't think I'm very unique in that respect.

post, I see Hull as my home city.

What is the concept of home city? Is it similar to "domicile"? I was born in Hull, brought up in Hull and live in London. My home is in London so I would say that is my home city. Where is your home? Why is it different to your home city?

I've never been able to understand people who move somewhere yet want to go back. I have always thought there's plenty of great places in the world so why choose somewhere you have been before. That doesn't mean I'm knocking somewhere I don't know as you like to erroneously say. What it does mean is I appreciate the confidence to try something new. I have always been impressed with people who have lived in different places or done new things. Wanting to go back seems too easy and "safe".

I have worked in various parts of the UK, New Zealand, the Middle East and Greece. Whenever I was asked where in the UK I was from, I always said Hull.

It is not up to you or anyone else to decide this for me or to draw up the sort of criteria needed to get a Hull passport. It is simply a matter of personal preference. We were both born in Hull. I say I am from Hull, you say you are from London. It isn't like the Inland Revenue's definition of "domicile", merely a case of where we, as individuals, see our home or our roots.

If you were living a relatively nomadic existence due to your work preferences I would agree with you there. In my case I made a conscious decision to live in London - for study/girlfriend reasons - and I've lived in the same City for 30 years so I think it's reasonable to describe that as the place where I am from.

You are obviously making it up as you go along.

You now say: "It is not up to you or anyone else to decide this for me" yet you earlier said "Ahh, you've heard the stories we tell to keep you southerners away."

You feel you have the right to call me a southerner yet you want to keep the right to call you what you want to yourself.

I call that hypocrisy.