NHS Pension

You need to remember that for many private schemes the company also makes a contribution. Their contribution to me is the difference between what I have contributed and my pension. Unfortunately with a final salary scheme this a pretty much open ended contribution. I would argue that I am entitled to more than my 6% compounded.

The local authority scheme I am in now does have a pot. Because there is a shortfall in that pot the contributions are currently over 20% I still pay

6%, and my employer pays the rest!

It certainly will be interesting to watch- but I think I have done all I can to protect my pension.

Neb

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Nebulous
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It's not correct to say that they change in direct proportion or anywhere near that. It's more to do with the availability of finance.

Reply to
Peter Saxton

Well so long as it meets the Govt. MFG (minimum funding guarantee) I am sure it will pay out in full (ha, ha..)

Reply to
whitely525

availability of finance = ample liquidity and cheap money, the de rigeur of monetary creation.

Reply to
Virgils Ghost

Heh, so that's where my council tax is going! :) As you're aware even if it's "funded" it's simply a wealth transference exercise no matter how they label it, I bet that shortfall will balloon once a good number finally claim their full entitlements and as life expectancy rises.

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Ah well, no single raindrop believes it is responsible for the flood :)

Reply to
Virgils Ghost

Yeah, because demand doesn't have any effect at all, does it. All them economics text books are bullshit.

The fact that the average household is decreasing in size and the population is increasing, and interest rates are low compared with recent history are all irrelavant.

What, like flights abroad? Like telecom services?

What, like electricity, which even with the recent price rises, is less in real terms now than 20 years ago?

What colour is the sky on your planet?

Reply to
Andy Pandy

*whoosh*
Reply to
Andy Pandy

Actually your council tax isn't going there. I work for a voluntary organisation - which is an "admitted body." I tend to agree with you - which is why I started off by saying I'm counting on getting paid off at about 70p in the .

Well the thing is you see- I deserve my one, for all the work I have done. Its everybody else's pension which is the problem! :-)

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Nebulous

Well so long as it meets the Govt. MFG (minimum funding guarantee) I am sure it will pay out in full (ha, ha..)

===================================================== I think that's why my employers contributions are so high- to meet the required funding standards.

Neb

Reply to
Nebulous

I gather you have never successfully studied economics. Are you saying that if the supply of houses, etc. doubles the price halves? There is no logic to support that and you have not been able to explain your reasoning.

Reply to
Peter Saxton

*Double whoosh*

I was taking the piss out of Virgils Ghost's implication that if inflation measures are not the same as the increase in money supply then the inflation figure is fiddled.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

Of course it does, we don't built enough homes, combine that with lax monetary policy and you have a nice inflationary mix.

Reply to
Virgils Ghost

You shot yourself in the foot for not recognising that prices are actually set on the margins and can go hyperbolic if demand is such, rather than rising on a linear basis.

Reply to
Virgils Ghost

Er, yes, and? Now try answering the rest of the points in my post.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

And the price of fish is silly these days as well, isn't it?

Reply to
Andy Pandy

Are you using a "rubbish generator" to reply?

Reply to
Peter Saxton

Are you American, perchance? As irony seems lost on you.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

No, the problem is that you say something boring and yet you think it's hilarious.

Reply to
Peter Saxton

I bet you don't get "The Office" either.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

Is that why you come on usenet? To show everyone how funny you are after everyone you know gives you a wide berth?

Reply to
Peter Saxton

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