Re: road pricing...

Jun 06, 2005 28 Replies

"loopy livernose" wrote


surely the easiest way of fixing this fairly is to put the road tax and
> other premiums onto the cost of fuel, this way, when someone drives a big
> thirsty car (environmental angle) they pay more, as does the "heavy road
> user" it seems to me its a win win situation..

No no no. "Fairly"?? You're missing the point. Within 20 years we'll all be in electric cars anyway, yet the govt relies on motorists to prop up its finances. So the search is for a way to carry on collecting all that lovely hydrocarbon tax, plus the VAT on it that's a tax on a tax, when we're not buying petrol any more.


Solution: charge for the use of roads instead within 10 years, and sweeten it by reducing the tax on something we soon won't be buying anyway. It's a bit like increasing the tax on cigarettes, but arguing that on balance it's "fair" because you're *reducing* the tax on snuff.

That's a good point. It does suggest some thinking ahead by politicians, though, an unlikely thing.

Putrid poetry, dismal doggerel, extrava-stanzas...

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It suggests that they are thinking of how to protect their tax if electricity ever comes to cars in a big way. Perhaps we then have to have rural electricity like diesel? A different colour electricity - that's thinking ahead.

they do howeber use a portion of it for self indulgent schemes and powerbase building, which is tantmount tot he same thing.

phil

just tax electricity, or the fuel to make it :-)

Phil

Wireless Reader wrote: ...

No, no, no. You can't do that. Everyone knows electrons are always black :-)

"Mike Scott" wrote

I thought they were silver? Anyway, there's definitely some metallic tint to them....

"Phil Thompson" wrote

Would you keep the VAT at the lower rate (5% rather than 17.5%) on it still, and just invent a new tax as well??

Thought that was neutrons? They go nicely with red.

:-)

We have that now. Red for positive electricity, blue for negative.

Rob Graham

Is that the new colour scheme or a combination of the old scheme?

I've got them fooled by connecting them the other way around and running the lights backwards.

Similarly the motorways are going to be full of people zooming backwards and the government will go bankrupt sending them cheques.

FoFP

go to 17.5% like it is elsewhere in the EU, that way you simplify the tax system and collect more money.

Phil

But what if you're AC?

Halmyre

Black for negative, surely.

In that case, it's brown for positive and blue for negative. ;-)

In message , Rob graham writes

But they've changed that as that was far too sensible a system with a green earth cable as well.

Easy you get the number plate RMS 240V

OT, but AC electricity doesn't have positive and negative as it's alternating (the direction of current flow changes forward and back). Please ignore this positing if my sarcasm detector has failed.

cd

"Phil Thompson" wrote

Eh? How many other EU countries have the same 17.5% rate as the UK?

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