Where did all the House Price Crash people go?

Things are a bit iffy in Sydney too. Houses being sold for between 20% and over 40% down from their peak value in some suburbs and some very young people declaring bankruptcy as a result of negative equity and a forced move.

Earlier this year Australia was being touted as the "soft landing" example the UK was expected to follow. Still, house prices are flat to rising slightly in other major cities there so we haven't seen the end of that story.

News Just In: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the companies at Ground Zero of both the global credit bubble and the US housing bubble have been suffering of late. Between them they misplaced 15 billion Dollars, counting them in such a way as to fraudulently reward executives with huge bonuses as a result of alleged growth. After huge fines and a purge of the boardrooms, the talk was of reducing the amount of mortgage-backed derivativves held in their own accounts for speculative purposes. No less then members and ex-heads of the Federal reserve have called them a systemic risk to the US and global economies. They were required to divest themelves of parts of their portfolios, though were given time so as not to disrupt mortgage markets. meanwhile class action suits by shareholders are trying to force executives to return tens of millions in bonuses and golden handshakes.

Some no doubt regard it as mere coincidence that the US housing markets turned just when Freddie and Fannie received their spankings (though surely not anyone here?). In what's practically an admission, overseers of the GSE's in the US are now touting loosening the reins on the two miscreants particularly to try to staunch the bleeding of the US housing markets. Though they jointly own 1.4 trillion of mortgage derivatives on their own books, and insure the vast majority of US mortgage derivatives sold on to investors, the worries about systemic risk are to be shelved in favour of shoring up a US housing market that's looking more than a little sickly.

In short, attempts to strengthen the weakest link are being abandoned just at the point when the strain on it can be expected to rise considerably. Rather than wisely take timely steps to avert disaster, the US authorities take risks simply to provide short-term fixes to please a political constituency.

FoFP

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M Holmes
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TV MAGIC wrote

They are all priced at £170,000, that's £22,000 more than the last one sold about two years ago....

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Gordon

Tumbleweed wrote

Part of it, yes. I could expand a little and say that there seem to be more houses for sale in the area than I remember for quite some time, but that would be less accurate. ;-)

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Gordon

AIUI from friends there, the Sydney housing market is 'disconnected' from the other main cities and doesnt follow their trends, in either direction.

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Tumbleweed

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The Bank of England has issued what experts described as an inflation "red alert" after its independently-produced survey recorded a dramatic spike in living costs.

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mogga

"Gordon" wrote

There you go! - They're all expecting a 15% rise in the past two years -- clearly overpriced!

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Tim

Is that not more a consequence of people chucking bombs about and dollar weakness?

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me

In message , M Holmes writes

That brings up a much more important question: Did you get your money's worth?

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me

Well, I'm currently more than 100 Hawkwind gigs into the trip and I think the review should wait until it finishes...

FoFP

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M Holmes

Could be. Their Prophet is my profit.

That shouldn't affect things for me since gold is priced in Dollars and I need my profits in Pounds.

FoFP

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M Holmes

S'ok the ONS can't believe their own figures.

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mogga

After the change to export prices, the ONS?s estimate of overall inflation for goods and services produced by British companies and government went down from 3.4 to 2.2 per cent.

After correcting its mistake, the ONS now says the cash value of national income grew by an unsurprising 4.8 per cent annual rate in the second quarter rather than the unsustainable 6 per cent rate it estimated last month.

Policy makers often look more closely at the cash value of national output, since many believe it to be more reliable than the figures adjusted for inflation. "

Interesting, I'll have to investigate the BoE's own analysis and the cash value of national output.

Daytona

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Daytona

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