do accountants enjoy their job?

fh> politician: evacuate Mississippi, save lives

Are you insane? Politicians, good? You are unstable.

fh> medical doctor: save lives, cure illness, spread happy cheer

No one can argue doctors important role

fh> businessman: improve companies, create jobs, satisfy consumers

What is a "businessman"? In a lot of cases the CFO of a company has a CPA.

fh> accountant: audit books, cause trouble for businessmen, suck creativity out of a company

Think Enron and Artur Andersen, too much creativity.

I prefer to think of the 10,000 other companies. Why do you fixate on just one company?

As for andersen, they empitomize the worthlessness of accounting firms. They are like vultures always dreaming up more ways to bill hours, but do they contribute something useful to society? No.

fh> I prefer to think of the 10,000 other companies. Why do you fixate fh> on fh> just one company?

fh> As for andersen, they empitomize the worthlessness of accounting fh> firms. fh> They are like vultures always dreaming up more ways to bill hours, fh> but fh> do they contribute something useful to society? No.

Bad Monkey! Bad, Bad Monkey!

Again, your reading comprehension sucks. One of the first posts of mine you responded to plainly stated that I'm not doing accounting anymore. And yes, I do enjoy dressing in my monogrammed white shirts, thank you very much.

tests sounded harder and were graded harsher than the law board exams.

without accountants, you wouldn't know how much money your business was making financial decisions would be near impossible because you'd have no financial records financial records would be near meaningless because there would be no standard for comparison

Mark sees now. Mozart needed to write music, others need to write the great novel, and einstein needed to create relativity. You need to run down to your cubicle farm every morning to tab up more travel reimbursements. To each his own!

Those businessmen must not be very bright since they keep putting accountants on the payroll.

a) somebody has to do the secretarial work b) they work cheap

No wonder you are having math problems; you can't even count to two.

/BAH

You need to know that this poster is trying to justify not having to take arithmetic classes in school. He also thinks it is cool and smart to emulate that idiot Marilyn von Savant who has deemed math to be worthless because she can't do it.

/BAH

You obviously do not have a grasp on what an accountant's role is in the modern company. It is not an historical record-keeping position anymore and some of us work closely with the businessman (CEO) whom you seem to admire to facilitate his ability to improve companies thereby creating jobs and satisfying customers. No longer is accounting just about numbers, but also about processes and process improvement.

I'm sorry if your experiences in accounting never got you to the point where you were respected as part of the management team, but then, you don't seem to know that is possible.

By the way, I can wear whatever I want to work 99% of the time since I work in a manufacturing company. I only have to dress up when we have important customers visiting and, even then, business casual is norm.

my, my, so defensive aren't we? Did mark hit a raw nerve?

closely with the usinessman (CEO) facilitate his ability to improve companies thereby creating jobs and satisfying customers.

This is what the ad for the secretary/girl friday position in my company says!

improvement.

I see it's still about jargon. "Process improvement" is code for administrative grunt work in my company. Usually we give it to somebody who is not presentable enough to work with human customers.

I especially remember Marilyn (back in 1990) gave an incorrect answer to a problem of the well-known sort "If a hen and a half lay an egg and a half in a day and a half ..." which is correctly calculated as (eggs / hen) / days.

David Ames

She also famously dismissed the old chestnut "how can you measure the height of a building with a barometer". After providing some of the well-known joke answers (e.g., I take the barometer to the building supervisor's office and say, "Here I have a very fine barometer which I will give you if you tell me the height of this building"), she opined that there wasn't any real way to measure height with a barometer.

In my experience, she's even less informed about physics than about math.

- Randy

P.S. The method, albeit inaccurate, is to use the variation of air pressure with altitude. I believe an earlier version of aircraft altimeters used this method.

closely with the usinessman (CEO) facilitate his ability to improve companies thereby creating jobs and satisfying customers.

Does Markie's view of the business world come from 1950s sitcoms?

- Randy

All altimeters used to use this method. And most still do (but perhaps not on airplanes).

Ken Muldrew snipped-for-privacy@ucalgazry.ca (remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

That depends on what type of barometer you have.

Is Randie fooled that, because they change the title of the job, that secretarial work in 2005 is that different from the same job in 1950s? And that the "operations engineer" who empties the garbage can in his cubicle is a professional engineer?

Does randie think that, because they change the job title, secretarial work in 2005 is that different from the same job in 1950s? And that the "operations engineer" who empties the waste basket is a professional engineer? And that his $40,000 paycheck today has more buying power than his Dad's $19,000 paycheck in the 1950s?