Pro 99 - Release 3 or 4?

Does your QB calculate taxes?

| > I am currently using Release 4 and tax table 20205 with Pro 99. | >

| > In the NG archives I have read that using Release 3 would be better for | > payroll than Release 4, but do not quite understand why. Can someone | > briefly | > explain the difference? | | Does your QB calculate taxes? | | | >

| > I would like to access the full potential of the software I purchased. If | > utilizing R3 is preferable to R4, where can I obtain a copy of R3? I found | > only R4 at Intuit's website. | > -- | > Summer | > (email: mmmmdonuts at atlantic | > dot net) | >

Hi,

Thanks for responding.

No, I must fill in FW, SS-Emp, SS-Com, MC-Emp, MC-Com, and FU for each employee every week. If it matters, I am in Florida.

Sorry, I now realize the difference between R3 & R4 - I think. Rather than display all zeroes in the Preview Paycheck window as R4 does, R3 will automatically calculate the taxes using the old tax table. However, if it allows me to adjust it and then always calculates on that adjustment, that would be great!

Thanks again.

You are on the button. 1999 R4 was the first version to initiate the current tax table policy of disabling tax calulations as of Feb 15th of the next version year.

| > | > I am currently using Release 4 and tax table 20205 with Pro 99. | > | >

| > | > In the NG archives I have read that using Release 3 would be better | > for | > | > payroll than Release 4, but do not quite understand why. Can someone | > | > briefly | > | > explain the difference? | > | | > | Does your QB calculate taxes? | > | | > | | > | >

| > | > I would like to access the full potential of the software I purchased. | > If | > | > utilizing R3 is preferable to R4, where can I obtain a copy of R3? I | > found | > | > only R4 at Intuit's website. | > | > -- | > | > Summer | > | > (email: mmmmdonuts at | > atlantic | > | > dot net) | > | >

| >

| > Hi, | >

| > Thanks for responding. | >

| > No, I must fill in FW, SS-Emp, SS-Com, MC-Emp, MC-Com, and FU for each | > employee every week. If it matters, I am in Florida. | >

| > Sorry, I now realize the difference between R3 & R4 - I think. Rather than | > display all zeroes in the Preview Paycheck window as R4 does, R3 will | > automatically calculate the taxes using the old tax table. However, if it | > allows me to adjust it and then always calculates on that adjustment, that | > would be great! | | You are on the button. 1999 R4 was the first version to initiate the current | tax table policy of disabling tax calulations as of Feb 15th of the next | version year. | | >

| > Thanks again.

Thank you for your confirmation. Not very happy about my tax tables being disabled by R4.

Now, my other question (as yet unanswered): where can I obtain a copy of R3? I found only R4 at Intuit's website. Googled for it, but was unsuccessful.

Does anybody know? Or, can somebody email it to me perhaps?

Thank you for your time and patience. I very much appreciate it!

~Summer (email: mmmmdonuts at atlantic dot net)

Considering that you have been entering the amounts maually for about 5 years now it does not appear to bother you that much.

| > | > | > I am currently using Release 4 and tax table 20205 with Pro 99. | > | > | >

| > | > | > In the NG archives I have read that using Release 3 would be | > better | > | > for | > | > | > payroll than Release 4, but do not quite understand why. Can | > someone | > | > | > briefly | > | > | > explain the difference? | > | > | | > | > | Does your QB calculate taxes? | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | >

| > | > | > I would like to access the full potential of the software I | > purchased. | > | > If | > | > | > utilizing R3 is preferable to R4, where can I obtain a copy of R3? | > I | > | > found | > | > | > only R4 at Intuit's website. | > | > | > -- | > | > | > Summer | > | > | > (email: mmmmdonuts at | > | > atlantic | > | > | > dot net) | > | > | >

| > | >

| > | > Hi, | > | >

| > | > Thanks for responding. | > | >

| > | > No, I must fill in FW, SS-Emp, SS-Com, MC-Emp, MC-Com, and FU for each | > | > employee every week. If it matters, I am in Florida. | > | >

| > | > Sorry, I now realize the difference between R3 & R4 - I think. Rather | > than | > | > display all zeroes in the Preview Paycheck window as R4 does, R3 will | > | > automatically calculate the taxes using the old tax table. However, if | > it | > | > allows me to adjust it and then always calculates on that adjustment, | > that | > | > would be great! | > | | > | You are on the button. 1999 R4 was the first version to initiate the | > current | > | tax table policy of disabling tax calulations as of Feb 15th of the next | > | version year. | > | | > | >

| > | > Thanks again. | >

| > Thank you for your confirmation. Not very happy about my tax tables being | > disabled by R4. | | Considering that you have been entering the amounts maually for about 5 | years now it does not appear to bother you that much. | | | | >

| > Now, my other question (as yet unanswered): where can I obtain a copy of | > R3? | > I | > found only R4 at Intuit's website. Googled for it, but was unsuccessful. | >

| > Does anybody know? Or, can somebody email it to me perhaps? | >

| > Thank you for your time and patience. I very much appreciate it! | >

| > ~Summer | > (email: mmmmdonuts at atlantic | > dot | > net)

Hi again,

I never said how long I was using payroll in Pro 99. I just recently reinstalled the program in November 2004, expecting payroll to work the same with R4 as it did with R3. But that is not the case, unfortunately. So, I am looking for R3 so I can continue using the software in the same manner I last used it.

Let me ask you directly: Do you have a R3 for Pro 99 you are willing to share? If not, do you know where I might obtain R3?

Still searching the net without success...

"> Hi again,

Just buy the CD version of QBP99 and you should get the first release. I still have copy of QTables that fools QBP into thinking it has the up to date Tax tables. Even since 99, SS & Mcare have not changed much. This would ,at least, allow you to use the payroll function and manually correct any errors. I would be happy to email you a copy. Post back Jeff

Why are you assuming the OP does not have a legal copy of the program?

Except all the government forms will be year 1999 and tax amounts calcualted incorrectly. No R3 had the same fate as QB 1999, tossed in the garbage where it belonged.

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for responding! I'd love a copy. QTables... I tried searching for this on the Internet, too, without success. How nice of you!

Email: mmmmdonuts at atlantic dot net

But, now I'm confused and have more questions. I have a Pro 99 CD already (QBPro 99 for Windows 95/98, NT 4.0 or higher - I am running WinXP Pro). Explored the CD trying to find a release number. Found none. The manual cover shows Version 99. Could I just reinstall Pro 99 and then not update it? And Qtables will work with this? What about Y2K issues?

Back in November after installing R1(?), I went to Intuit's website to get an update because I thought it was not Y2K compliant (can't remember if I needed to update it to get it working in XP Pro - don't think so). R4 was all I could get.

Sorry if I am making this more complicated than it really is.

Really appreciate all your help, thanks again!

If you do figure out a way to re-install your QB99 and "upgrade" it only to R3, I don't think that version will be able to open your company file (which is now a QB99 R4 version company file).

When I used to do "upgrades" on QB99, I think I downloaded the upgrade file, saved it to the hard drive, then ran the file. If you did the same, maybe you have the R3 "upgrade" file somewhere on your computer or on an old back-up of your computer files.

The reason I put "upgrade" in quotes is that, as you now know, the R4 "upgrade" effectively downgraded the software you bought to make it no longer work with the tax tables you also bought.

Agreed, She would have to have a backup of an R3 file/earlier to access the company file. Maybe she's willing to start over..... might be worth it to her since $ntui$ is now charging $200/year for TTS. Jeff

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I hope you have broadband, here it comes......

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Hi ElJay,

Thanks for responding! Yes, I know the newer release files cannot be read by older release programs. I have *several* QBB files for R3 saved to floppy and zip. I am a notorious "backer-upper". Keeping a running series of three QBBs going - backing up to the oldest of the three each session. And I am about to put all my QBs backup and company file copies onto CD to have them in one place as well.

Looked through all my HDDs and other backup media. Did not find a R3 saved anywhere. I saved R4 though. !!! :o( Maybe there isn't one because the update to R3, at that time, was done automatically? Not sure.

Thanks again for noting the version/release incompatibilities, since others may not be aware of this.

| > When I used to do "upgrades" on QB99, I think I downloaded the upgrade | file, | > saved it to the hard drive, then ran the file. If you did the same, | maybe | > you have the R3 "upgrade" file somewhere on your computer or on an old | > back-up of your computer files. | >

| > The reason I put "upgrade" in quotes is that, as you now know, the R4 | > "upgrade" effectively downgraded the software you bought to make it no | > longer work with the tax tables you also bought. | >

| >

| > > I am currently using Release 4 and tax table 20205 with Pro 99. | > >

| > > In the NG archives I have read that using Release 3 would be better for | > > payroll than Release 4, but do not quite understand why. Can someone | > > briefly | > > explain the difference? | > >

| > > I would like to access the full potential of the software I purchased. | If | > > utilizing R3 is preferable to R4, where can I obtain a copy of R3? I | found | > > only R4 at Intuit's website. | > > -- | > > Summer | > > (email: mmmmdonuts at atlantic | > > dot net) | | Agreed, | She would have to have a backup of an R3 file/earlier to access the company | file. Maybe she's willing to start over..... might be worth it to her since | $ntui$ is now charging $200/year for TTS. | Jeff

I have the QBBs for R3. But starting over is not a problem, either. Did this recently (thanks to Laura). It gives me an opportunity to fine-tune the Chart of Accounts, clean up old items, etc. Nothing like a fresh start!

| >

| > Hi Jeff, | >

| > Thanks for responding! I'd love a copy. QTables... I tried searching for | > this on the Internet, too, without success. How nice of you! | >

| > Email: mmmmdonuts at atlantic | dot | > net | >

| > But, now I'm confused and have more questions. I have a Pro 99 CD already | > (QBPro 99 for Windows 95/98, NT 4.0 or higher - I am running WinXP Pro). | > Explored the CD trying to find a release number. Found none. The manual | > cover shows Version 99. Could I just reinstall Pro 99 and then not update | > it? And Qtables will work with this? What about Y2K issues? | >

| > Back in November after installing R1(?), I went to Intuit's website to get | > an update because I thought it was not Y2K compliant (can't remember if I | > needed to update it to get it working in XP Pro - don't think so). R4 was | > all I could get. | >

| > Sorry if I am making this more complicated than it really is. | >

| > Really appreciate all your help, thanks again! | > -- | > Summer

Jeff,

No, I do not have broadband yet, but do have a good dial-up speed. Looking at broadband now and hope to convert in the next few months. It only took about 3-4 minutes to get the zip file. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! You are a peach!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other Post From Jeff:

"QB99 was Y2K compatible. It was QBP v6 that had the Y2K repair. Install your version and never "upgrade". El Jay might have the v3 manual upgrade he'd share or someone else in this group. In fact I would like a copy of that-- anyone?

Jeff"

Thanks for this, Jeff. I second the motion for a R3 manual upgrade sharer. :o)

-- Summer

Don't take this the wrong way but, have you considered upgrading your QB 99 to something like QB Basic 2003/4/5? You might be able to find a 2003 or

2004 "New in box/never opened/never registered" on Ebay for like $50. Intuit has QB Basic 2005 (if you don't need PRO) upgrades for $99.95 or your local retail store probably has it for like $70 or so after rebate.

Each product comes with a free 1 time download tax table. If you don't have state taxes to worry about you might be good for a year or two, tax table wise in regards to federal withholdings and forms.

The thing is, 20205 isn't a current tax table. The latest tax table is

20508. Even if it works, I doubt it's calculating withholdings correctly. It's going to have problems in doing your tax forms too. It doesn't seem worth it when $50 or so can buy you a new supported product with a 1 time, up to date, tax table. Like I said, don't take it the wrong way, but it doesn't seem worth it, considering all things.

-Elw00de

One year only, without tax table service on these newer versions (newer than QB99 Rev3) you can not use the tables after like Feb 15 or so of the next year. (not real positive on the exact date)

-- Leo