Many QB payroll users prefer and require that their accountant prepare their returns. Rather than pay for additional features Intuit, god bless their hearts, offers a lower priced basic version that does not include the features that are not needed by these end users.
Intuit, instead of offering the enhanced version could have kept all the features in just one version call it QB Payroll and make everyone pay the "Enhanced" price. thank you boys and girls at Intuit.
I haven't had to go through any registration proceedure simply because Intuit has removed a vital feature from this year's version of their software. At least 7 years ago, they offered multi-currency accounting, this was great as we are Canadian and sell to the US, and have bank accounts in US dollars. Quickbooks Pro did this multi-currency work very well. Now they have dropped it in all their Canadian products, which means if they don't offer it again soon, I will be buying a competitors product as we cannot do without it. Oh yes, they have an answer, they will sell an old version of the software that still has the feature --- why would I want to buy that, I have an old version that I use that has the feature. No new Quickbook purchases for me.
One other thing I want to suggest: go in to QuickBooks (once you registered) and under Help, choose Give Product Feedback. People can then let Intuit know what they thought of the registration experience, and this is then QUANTIFIED by a really smart database on the back end.
I hope this helps!
Stacy Kildal
Haskel LaPort wrote: ...
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OTOH, they _COULD_ have continued one version and retained its features in the base product but chose not to...
One can spin anything anyhow one wishes but it doesn't mean the choice made was out of altruism to the enduser.
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That might be a good way to deal with this, I'm not aware that the purchaser has any obligation to provide free or accurate market intelligence to Intuit.
-Mark Bole
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Careful, next thing you know guess what'll have been added to the license agreement...
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All to true but I do belive Intuit loves us.
... What they love is our $$...
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To Serve Man
I can not picture the boys and girls at Intuit cooking up a fricassee of Golden California Girls.
True! Seems like a lot of people forget this simple fact. Let me hit people over the head - As a publically traded company owned by share holders, I would hope so. Intuit is NOT in business to "be nice".
Now, whether or not being "nice" to your customers (even if losing money in the short term to gain good will and perhaps additional revenue/profits in the long term is a different story,but they're not in business to be purely altruistic to their end users.)
I don't have a problem w/ the concept; what I disapprove of is the required generation of revenue w/o providing additional benefit to the end user.
Having been self-employed for 30 years, I fully understand both ends of that dichotomy as I'm sure many other users do as well. If I'm not perceived as providing value my clients will go elsewhere; meanwhile I've got to generate sufficient revenue to pay the bills.
Intuit obviously has to do the same; I just think they've recently lost sight of the customer in pursuit of the former. Or, perhaps the problem is they have built such a large overhead corporate structure that requires maintenance they simply are running out of ways to produce more value other than by the unbundling ploy. I have a couple of other software products whose companies also seem to be having similar problems in their business models.
It's already there. I d "When we ask you for information, we will tell you ? or it will be clear ? what we need to know to fulfill your request and how the information you provide to us will be used. For example, if you order a product or register for a service from us, we will ask you for your name and contact information such as mailing address, phone number, and e-mail address."
I interpret that to mean, anything beyond the contact information is not considered registration information.
From the QB license agreement:
"C. Registration; Other Restrictions. The Software includes required registration, so you agree that you must register the Software with Intuit within the amount of time specified by the Software, otherwise you will not be able to continue to use of the Software. You agree to keep your registration information accurate and complete and promptly update your registration data with us as necessary to keep it accurate, current and complete. We protect your registration information according to our privacy policies which can be found by clicking
-Mark Bole
... I wouldn't read that as being _necessarily_ that limiting if I were one of their leagle beagles; I'd say it was simply demonstrative of the type of information that _could_ be requested; not an inclusive list. :)
The language in the registration clause simply refers to "registration information"--again, as a leagle beagle unless there's a specific definition elsewhere in the agreement as to what "registration information" means specifically, I'd argue from their side that Intuit has the right to put anything they wish on their questionnaire and call it registration information.
That they've pulled "tricks" in the past doesn't help their standing in my estimation. I'm certainly glad I'm past the point of doing anything that requires anything new from them; I can simply use my old version indefinitely to keep track of accounts and dump tax info at year end.
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