Quicken Ability to Deal with Options and Bonds

I've been using Microsoft Money to track stock, bond, and option investments. I had compared Money and Quicken on the ability to download data from a broker and track investments, and at least back in 2007 Money was easily two or three times better than Quicken for non standard investments. Money handled stock options - both long and short - correctly, and also did a much better job with bonds. Money's error handling and ability to make sense of complex hedges was really impressive, and Quicken's abilities were just buggy. Everything with Quicken had to be patched by hand. Quicken did a fine job with stocks, but I have plenty of non standard investment types like options, so I cannot afford a tool that doesn't deal with these correctly.

Well, fast forward three years and it looks like Money is out of business (amazing!!). Has Quicken's ability to handle stock options and bonds improved any?

If Quicken is not the right tool for most advanced instruments like options, is there another tool out there I should be considering? I'm starting to deal with partnerships now too, so it would be a plus if the tool could handle the more complex tax issues that these involve.

My main application is to download data from brokerages automatically, and then to run Schedule D reports end of year to determine capital gains. It would certainly be nice if the tool showed return on investment of anything in your portfolio that has not been sold yet too.

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W
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"W" wrote in news:fvudneOZpOp52c3XnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Hah.... once I stared getting K-1s, I just hired a tax lawyer. Best $500 I spend every year.

Quicken has always been horrendous for options, and even for short selling stocks. It just doesn't deal well with the whole "sold before you bought" concept.

And anyway, for options, there's not really a good "mark" to use until you close. The "last sale" could be days or weeks stale. I generally mark to the closing side of the quote (if I'm long, I mark to the bid, if I'm short I mark to the offer).

But I'm using homegrown software and a somewhat expensive datasource to do that.

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Eric J. Holtman

Just out of curiosity, does the tax lawyer help you find legal loopholes, or does he find even more ways to pay tax than your accountant does?

I'm going to try to milk a few years out of Money. I just can't believe they discontinued it!

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W

"W" wrote in news:z-udnU4s_PkY08_XnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Oh, I use him because he came highly recommended, as someone who knew the ins and outs of K-1s, and other various and sundry things.

I'm sure a good accountant would be just as good for taxes, but they wouldn't have been able to do my estate planning, my medical directives, or help me close on numerous real estate deals.

He's what I would call "aggressive" in pursuing deductions, but in no way illegal. I'm pretty sure he saves me at least the amount of his fee, every year, just because I'm a spaz and always forget something.

This past year, I cannot imagine doing my own taxes, since I'm now self-employed and filing a schedule C, along with some other forms (depreciation, etc) that I never even knew existed.

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Eric J. Holtman

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