18866 and protecting your data (or Who Wants Cold Calls?)

Interesting choice of example. On one PC here, there is a 52x CD writer and an old 8x cdrom drive. The slower dive is much quicker to spin up and for accessing small files, is vastly faster.

Can't say that I've noticed much difference in DVD speeds.

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hairydog
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Oh, she can gas. But I keep showing her the latest mobile phone scare stories so she confines her gassing to the landine. The phone bill dropped massively after the introduction of the "5p for an hour" type tariffs. Should now get even lower with TalkTalk's Talk2 free for a year, all off-peak landline calls are free. Just need to persuade her friends to sign up to TT to get daytime calls free too...

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Andy Pandy

Probably brickish by today's standards - but not too bad for 4 years ago. There were quite a lot of good deals at the time - I know people that got phones for even less. IIRC it was just after the mobile companies introduced PAYG vouchers with no time limits, basically free line rental, think they had realised that many people (like me) weren't prepared to pay 10-15 a month for a phone that would only be used occasionally.

It looks like I'll get one through work soon - I've resisted this so far because the last thing I want is for work to be able to contact me wherever I am...

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Andy Pandy

In message of Sat, 11 Sep 2004, NoSpam writes

If you cancel the contract at month 12 I suspect that there would be a great deal of hassle getting the final £90 Cashback.

DF

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David Floyd

"Andy Pandy" wrote in message news:41443cca$0$87033$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...

Whilst I agree with you, sometimes the argument isn't quite as transparant as you make it out to be. Mobile phones are always on devices and hence unless you switch the thing off when you are not using it you cannot claim that you don't use the phone. Even if you made zero calls you are still using the phone - maybe not making the most of the tariff, but you are still using the phone and it is the cost of the phone that we are really talking about.

If you have a work phone that is specfically yours then it doesn't matter if you make the odd call on it. It might work out to be in your best interest as it would mean your costs might even drop to zero as your phone usage is low.

BTW, I am not sure which PAYG network you are on, but depending on whether you call mobiles or landlines when you are out and about, you may want to consider switching SIMs. The Fresh network are good for mobile phone PAYG calling at 15p per minute.

AMO

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NoSpam

No, the cashback is part of the terms of the agreement.

There is no terms that state that cashback at month 12 is only applicable if you continue for amount of the cashback.

Furthermore, there are other companies offering the same deal with cashback at different months.

The above was just an example and Dialaphone would not make their product less competitive.

AMO

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NoSpam

It's a long time ago but I thought some of the annual subcriptions were betwee 50 and 100?

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Colin Reddish

So if the company concerned claims a bill of 200? It may be fraudulent, but how do you prove it?

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Andrew Fenton

The threads I recall were specifically discussing 18866 when their rates were 0.5p/min. IIRC the "experts" were saying that this 0.5p/min would not even cover the per minute charges that BT would make for "receiving" ( probably the wrong term) and terminating a call made between 2 BT subscribers using 18866, at least during peak times.

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Colin Reddish

IIRC I read it in this neswgroup. Is it not true then?

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Colin Reddish

I am coming to the conclusion that you are either a scoundrel or a fool.

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Stickems

Probably both but that is no excuse for top posting . Wombat .

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Wombat

"Colin Reddish" wrote in message news:mPY0d.81$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...

I believe that this used to be true, but not any longer. The cost of landline calls has come down to such a level that all providers can offer landline calls for pretty much the cost of the connection which I believe that BT charge either 0.5p or 1p.

18866 don't make buckets of money, but they don't make a loss.

The 60 minute / 70 minute limit imposed by BT, TalkTalk and other companies are simply measures put in place so that people don't just ring a number and then put down the phone and leave it like that (when I say put down the phone I don't mean disconnect the call).

AMO

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NoSpam

Fresh charge "per minute" (rather than per second) so may not be appropriate for Andys very short calls.

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Colin Reddish

"Colin Reddish" wrote in message news:b8_0d.102$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...

Fair point, but when you factor in the difference in cost of 30-40p vs 15p, you only need to worry about being out by 20-30 seconds. His calls aren't going to be that short.

AMO

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NoSpam

Nice one Oliver.

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Stickems

All my calls to Fresh in the last 6 months have lasted less than 10 seconds. But that is because I only make 1 call each month to one of my landline phones long enough to pick up the handset to complete the call. I have to do this to keep my account active. Fresh charge me 11p each for these calls (I don't know how they work it out because they don't provide itemised bills unless you pay extra). The same calls would cost me 5p each on O2and probably similar on other networks. It takes less than 10 secs to decide you don't want to speak to an answer phone or voice message service, even less to say "I'll be home sometime"

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Colin Reddish

"Colin Reddish" wrote in message news:lv%0d.129$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...

Fair enough. However, I have to say that I don't use the phone the way you do. And even if I did, those types of calls are in the minority.

But in essense you are saying that you lose out on 6p if you make a short call and that this is only an issue if you are in a situation where you either just phone out to keep a SIM you never use alive and/or if the line that you dial always has no-one answering. ;0) I don't think many fall into that category - yours is a somewhat unique situation.

AMO

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NoSpam

Have you considered that they might be making a profit? And that all the other telcos might just be ripping us off? If they are just looking for databases with your contact and credit card details, there are much easier ways to go about it than setting up a telco first.

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Chris H.

Peak rates are a whole different kettle of fish, though.

Oliver.

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Oliver

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