32 years old and no pension

Hello all

I'm a 32 year old manual worker with a wife and 3 kiddies... I have a mortgage with about 50 grand left to pay over the next 24 years with the value of my property about 95 grand.....

I have worked for the same company for 8 years and earn about

23k a year from this job....we live in the north ..so cost of living is quite reasonable.......

My question is this....I worry about the future and about having no pension. I do not trust pensions as I hear so many bad things.......

I have no savings to call my own other than the equity held in my property.. currently about 45 k.

When my property is paid off will I still be able to get state pension or will the value of my property will counted as savings........?

Would it be wiser to start saving into some sort of high interest account that I know I can get my hands on when ever I want....?

Or my prefered option is to keep investing in property...i.e. moving to a bigger house maybe around 160 k ...which I can afford just about.....

Thanks for amny advice and sorry if these questions seem a little vague as I am lacking any future planning at the moment.

Many Thanks

Lee

Reply to
lee barlow
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You can invest a pension in almost anything these days, if you don't want to risk an equity based investment you could look at other options, eg bonds, even straight cash. With your particular circumstances, you'd probably get 59% effective tax relief on any pension investment you make (22% income tax relief plus 37% increase in tax credits) so think carefully before discounting pensions.

The basic state pension is not means tested, it is based on NI contributions. You need 44 years of NI credits to get the full pension (if you earn at least

4000 per year you'll get NI credits).

The state top up (was the MIG, now the pension credit they are advertising on telly) *is* means tested, but the value of the house you live in doesn't usually count. If you sold up and moved downmarket to release cash then this could disqualify you.

May be better with a flexible mortgage where you can make overpayments and then withdraw them whenever you want.

Buying a house that is more expensive than you need purely as an investment is a gamble, historically over the long term it has not paid off - *unless* you rent out the extra property you are buying, eg buy a property to let or rent out a room in your bigger house. But don't even think about doing this without doing a lot of research, don't assume, as so many people in this country seem to, that investing in property is a guaranteed money maker.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

State pensions are not means tested. Therefore as long as you NI contributions are up to date you will get the state pension (Assuming it is still there when you get to age 65)

You say you are thinking of using a high interest savings account, because you can have access but above said you have no savings, Going on the current situation you haven't been able to save so far, what makes you think you will now, and what makes you think you wont decide to take it once it reaches £10k because you need a new car?

I am a fan of pensions, because of that very reason. I do *not* want access to the money that is supposed to be doing me for retirement, because if I did then there would be none left when I got to age 65.

Also if your compnay will pay into the pension then you could be getting extra benefit than you would get from a high Interest savings account. The only way a savings account would benefit you potentially is if it was tax free. (Previous post a few months ago went into this)

If you do that when you get to age 65 you will be "House Rich Cash Poor". Which means you will need to do some form of equity release or downsize to realise your asset. As it will be locked up inside your house.

Reply to
Phil Deane

Come on! What bad things are you hearing about pensions? Just list them and then we can see how valid they are. It's quite possible you are only hearing the bad things.

Rob Graham

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Rob Graham

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