Bank won't change my damaged pound!

Sep 02, 2003 15 Replies

When I visited my bank recently to pay in some cheques, I took the opportunity to take in a pound coin which had unfortunately had an argument with my lawnmower (ouch)- thought I might as well get it changed for a good one while I was there. However, to my great surprise, the bank teller would have none of it - she said that if she took it off my hands, the bank would lose out. Puzzled, I pointed out that banks (surely?) routinely sift out damaged notes and coins from circulation and return them to the Mint for recycling?? "Ah, but only full coin bags..." (?!? what, so when I've demolished another 19 pound coins with the flymo that will be OK then?)



At this point I had the option of throwing a wobbly and threatening to move my business elsewhere, etc etc; or saying to myself, it's only a quid and leaving, which is what I did.



As a matter of principle, though, can someone tell me if I'm in the right here?!!



(FYI the coin did have a small chunk missing, courtesy of the mower; I'd estimate about 5% of the whole. The teller weighed the coin first



- a slightly pointless exercise - before giving me the bad news, so I wonder if there's a 'rule' that a coin must weigh the prescribed amount to be deemed valid?)



David


I would have thought so. After all, isn't the rule for damaged

*notes* that it will be accepted provided definitely more than half of it either remains intact or can be proved to have been destroyed? It ought to be the same for coin.

"Ronald Raygun" wrote

I thought all you needed was the (complete) serial number along the edge of the note, so could potentially be less than half??

Maybe you need more than half *and* at least one serial number.

Maybe it doesn't work with coins because they don't have serial numbers...

Couldn't you have withdrawn a bag of £1 coins from your account, substituted the damaged one for one from the bag, and paid the bag back into your account?

"Chris Blunt" wrote

But don't they *weigh* bags when deposited? The damaged coin had a chunk out of it, so it would not weigh the "correct" amount ... and they would therefore not accept the damaged coin "hidden" in the bag of legit coins!

Nothing a spot of resourcefulness can't put right...

"Ronald Raygun" wrote

"Resourcefulness"? You mean "cheating"?! :-( Would you also condone putting in just (say) 10 coins, plus some chocolate wrappers to make up the excess, so that you get 20 for 10 down? Downright deceitful!

Chocolate wrappers are next to weightless. A wee pebble, perhaps, equal in weight to the missing chunk out of the coin. Either that, or something more subtle like plastering on a bit of araldite with metal fillings in it to give the same density as the rest of the coin. Then use it in a parking meter. More anonymous than at the bank.

Nothing wrong with a modicum of deceit in the fight against injustice.

There is a big difference between notes and coins. Notes are promises to pay money written by the queen and signed on her behalf by the Bank of England. [It's a bit different in Scotland].

Coins are pre-measured weights of precious metal that are stamped by the queen to certify their value.

In the case of notes, provided you have evidence that the queen [or the BOS/RBOS/CB] has promised to pay you this money, you can enforce the payment.

In the case of the coin, the damage means that there is no longer £1 worth of metal alloy there so it isn't worth £1 any more. A scrap metal dealer may offer something for it.

I thought he said they did accept them as long as they were in bags. Perhaps *every* coin in the bag needs to be damaged in order for them to do that.

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A bit out of date with this. There hasn't been any precious metal in normal coins since 1937(?)

Since that point coins have effectively been a more durable note for smaller amounts that are presumed to get more usage. They don't carry a pay the bearer on demand promise- but what is that worth anyway in this day and age?

James

And even when there was, they were still just tokens, in the sense that there was probably never anywhere near as much as a pound's worth of gold in a pound coin (or its ancestors).

Its the Bank of England who should exchange it. I used to send fake pound coins to them that I recovered from Payphones when I worked for BT. And It always amazed me that people would fake pound coins but they do. It must cost them more than a Pound to do it except in India orthe like i suppose.

Ian

In article , Jonathan Bryce writes

So thats what she's doing when not opening fetes

In message , Tim writes

The coin would need to be pretty badly damaged for such a small difference to be noticed.

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