BLT or Pension??

If that is true net, it is not to bad by todays standards.

But you could currently get 5.75% (gross) on a savings account.

1) It basically depends if you think property prices are still set to rise, even by smaller amounts is not to bad because the main risk is a forced sale. 2) While yields on BTL look derisory, the big risk is low interest rates. In this case you would get derisory returns on savings, while property would likely steam on ahead. 3) people like bricks and mortar, tangible things. Don't know why, they just do. Maybe they fear a run on the banks or something.
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whitely525
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Yep,

Back in the days when you could get 12% yields, I made about 4 K pa after expenses on 80K of investment. I had demanding, akward tenants and for the hours I put in I could have worked overtime at work for the same money.

It was only because I made a great capital gain that it was worthwhile.

I would touch being a landlord at 4% yields with a shitty bargepole

tim

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tim.....

I take it these users are yourself?

ISTM that you have had some reasonable replies and it just shows your lack of experience in these matters if you can't see that, IMHO.

tim

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tim.....

That pension pot is a pessimistic estimate. Your estimated rental is an optimistic figure. Rents have not gone up 5% pa compound in the last 8 years. I would be suprised if they have gone up 1% pa.

tim

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tim.....

He asks questions and then disagrees with honest answers he doesn't like. Which begs the question, why bother asking in the first place?

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Virgils Ghost

When the great economic collapse happens savings won't be worth anything, but if you've paid off a house you at least have somewhere to live :P

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vilemerchant

You won't get anything like 5% rental increase per year. Round my way, rents haven't really gone up at all in the past ten years.

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Jonathan Bryce

In message , Ronald Raygun writes

Ah! Yes! The Arable Percentage Rate Quotation Rules!

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John Boyle

More than enough. A lot of the land is set-aside so isn't producing anything. But it could.

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Jonathan Bryce

Round Kingston Upon Thames, I saw the same flat I once rented advertised for the same as I rented it 6 years ago - It hadn't been improved since then, and the market was pretty soft with offers well below the advertised rate being taken up, so I reckon on that one flat it's probably dropped over 5% in the 6 years.

Jim.

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Jim Ley

"vilemerchant" wrote

Yeh, it'll just be big guns that are worth something when the state of anarchy starts...

"vilemerchant" wrote

Nope - it'll be the next guy with the bigger gun, who will get to live in your house!

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Tim

Well, f*ck me. I thought I'd heard everything until I read about that.

Daytona

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Daytona

Ah, but very shortly after that, it'll be the ammunition that's valuable!

tom

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Tom Anderson

I don't have the interest in correcting you in all your mis-informed generalisations and reality proves to me you do not have a handle on what your talking about. But just 3 quick points. 1 Check Hansard, Dep PM quotes council rents rising annually for London culminating at 2012 at 12.5% increase.

2 Sons flat purchased 2003 @99k selling today 166k, thats good old 10% compound again (surprise surprise) I thought you said history had stopped repeating itself in modern times. 3 Suggest you talk to Scottish Widows/ Hargreaves Landsdown, the pension figures I quoted are theirs (underselling yet!!). Having asked for an opinion I find myself having to educate the advisors, Now I really must get on.
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JohnW

Well get on with your investment then. You clearly don't need advice.

So buy a council house in London then, and sell it in 2012.

Yes, I'm sorry, you're quite right, over 4 years prices rose 10% so obviously that proves that they'll carry on rising at that rate for the next 40.

They generally use figures they are told to use by the FSA. But don't let that worry you.

Yes, you've really educated us! Thanks! I'll go out and cash in my pension tomorrow and buy 10 BTL properties!

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Andy Pandy

"Andy Pandy" wrote

He'll probably find at the end of the 40 years, that he *did* "need" advice... :-(

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Tim

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