NS&I Index-Linked certificates: new issue, same old rate

Just had the NS&I rate update e-mail in and the press release has just appeared on NS&I website:

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The immediately preceding issue of index-linked certificates (both 3 year & 5 year) were paying 1%+RPI, and are now paying ... 1%+RPI, so nothing much to get excited about there then....

For the 5-year index-linkeds, it's been 1%+RPI since June 2008

18-Jun-2008 45th IL 1.00%+RPI 29-Apr-2009 46th IL 1.00%+RPI 06-Apr-2010 47th IL 1.00%+RPI

and given the shelf life of the previous two issues (average 11 months each), there'll probably not be much change/excitement for another 11 months or so.

OTOH, perhaps those who may fall under the new 50% tax rate might find index-linked certificates a little bit more interesting.

Allan

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Allan
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Depends how you look at it. The RPI currently stands at 3.7%, so RPI + 1% is 4.7%, and that return is tax free. It's equivalent to 5.9% gross for a standard rate taxpayer, 7.8% to a 40% taxpayer, and 9.4% to a 50% taxpayer. Try getting rates like those in a bank or building society at the moment.

Of course, the return if you buy them now will be based on the RPI at this time next year, and it may be lower by then, but at least you're guaranteed a 1% per annum real return after tax and inflation are taken into account, which I doubt if any bank or building society rate available now will give you.

The very best rate you can get at the moment on a term bond of under 2 years is 3.6%. After tax at 20%, that comes down to 2.9%. For that to beat the inflation-linked savings certificates rate, RPI inflation this time next year would have to be under 1.9%. The gamble is to know whether it will be.

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Norman Wells

You're quite right. It's a good return. I was simply referring to the fact that there was nothing to get excited about in the "new issue" as it's the same old rate (but still appealing as you point out).

I did a quick calculation over the weekend. If one had invested in

5-year index-linked saving certificates 5 years ago (5th April 2005 - 5th April 2010), one would have got 4% (well, 3.99%) per annum (compound), which would take some effort to beat for a taxpayer.
Reply to
Allan

If you've already got the previous issue, though, it does allow you to put away even more of your personal savings absolutely safety at the same rate.

But then, 5 years ago, rates as high as 7% per annum were around on ordinary, taxable term bonds.

The great uncertainty in comparing fixed rate investments and NS&I index-linked bonds is what the RPI over their term will be. And I don't know anyone who knows what it will do except over the short term.

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Norman Wells

The point of an new issue is that you have another £15,000 limit available to invest in them. Inflation is on the way up, so I think it could be worthwhile investing in them if you are prepared to tie your cash up for 3 or 5 years.

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Jonathan Bryce
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Not so much the safety, but more out of the grasp of HMRC? The irony: protected by one govt dept, and out of the reach of another?

which would be comparable for a 40% tax payer, would it not?

I don't have a crystal ball, but historic figures for 5-year certificates suggest that the index-linked savings certificates outperform the fixed rate certificates

Reply to
Allan

It's 5% to them.

That may be true, but I wasn't comparing with fixed rate NS&I, rather with the best fixed rate building society accounts.

Reply to
Norman Wells

"Jonathan Bryce" wrote

Eh? - Doesn't the BoE reckon it's on the way *down* ? Do you know something which they don't? ;-)

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Tim

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