Mac Quicken 2007 observations

Nov 16, 2008 6 Replies

Mac Quicken 2007 observations. 15 Nov 2008



[let me know if I'm wrong with any of these observations. I'm new to Quicken but all this is based on my actual experience so far].

o When a file is opened, there doesn't appear to be a way to inquire what file it is. It opens the last file opened, but you may not know which one that is. The file name should be displayed in a menu line or somewhere.



o File -> Close - would be a good addition as it doesn't exist. To close a file and open another one you File -> Open and assume the one you were in is now closed (or with Quicken not running, double click on a .qdfm file). I find this odd because many programs allow you to open multiple files (e.g. OpenOffice) and lets you obviously select which one you are working on.



o Historical Quote downloads are not robust. e.g. AAPL will NOT get a 5 year archive (for me and Quicken support confirms that too) it only seems to get 5 quotes! And this has been observed for INTC and COMPX but only intermittently!! (seems like a serious bug). [When this happens to me now, I go to Google Financial, the stock, click on 5 years, click on download csv, and then massage it with an emacs macro to put it in proper qif format, and import it into my Quicken stock file].



o There isn't an obvious way to re-reconcile an account. i.e. clear "R" from transactions so you can start over if you add older transactions, edit some reconciled transactions, etc. It turns out not to be difficult, but seems to be undocumented, or at least obscure, so it was not obvious at first. The way I found was to get to the window that lists all reconciliations by date (which I only arrived at intermittently, I'm not sure how to just open that) and select one. Now the non-obvious thing because there is no delete button in the window, but if you go to the main window with one selected, click on "Edit" at the top of that window, there is a "delete reconciliation" (or something like that) and it will delete that reconciliation and remove the R's from the relevant entries, and NOT otherwise disturb the transactions. This was far from obvious to me. I just tripped on it.



There should be a button that allows you to wholesale (or by a date window) clear "R" and "C" (other?) Clr codes. I don't care if there are three or four "Are you sure you want to do this?" buttons to click through, sometimes it is necessary to save the end user hours of their time. (i.e. me).



o when reconciling, there is a "clear all" but no "check all" transactions as being cleared in this version. That would be helpful when one wants to do an initial first reconcile with hundreds (or more) of transactions.



o There is no printed book on the Mac version that one can purchase. That I've found, anyway. I have several on the Windows version. I eventually had to print out the 477 page guide from the program itself to get Mac specific documentation I could easily read, study, and refer to.



o Buried in that documentation is a "re-indexing" commmand (Option-Command-B) that is recommended before any exports, to fix file problems, etc. I only found that in the manual, I don't see any menu item to do it that makes it obvious. So it seems it is slightly hidden from the user unless they study the manual. That doesn't seem right to me.



o The re-index command often results in a program crash immediately after doing the re-indexing. Not good. e.g. a re-index, File -> Backup to Disk often (always?) crashes the program. As far as I can tell, nothing gets lost when it is reopened, but how would I know for sure?


[I forgot this one]

File -> Open -> should display a "Recently Opened" file list. Many good programs do that these days.

[Don't have Mac Quicken. I use Q2007D for Windoze, so the comments that follow may or may not be useful to you.]

When a file is open in my Q2007D the file name is shown in the top bar of the screen, e.g., "Quicken 2007 Deluxe - Youngs - [Account Name]. Not so in the case of the Mac? If not, you might try password protecting the files (use a one-letter "password" if security isn't an issue) and the file name might show up in the password dialog.

Clicking on File in Q2007D give a drop down menu with the usual actions (New, Open, etc.) but also shows the last 4 files opened at the bottom of the list. Not on the Mac? Selecting File > Open brings up a new window with all available files in the Quicken folder.

I've sometimes wished I could have multiple files open but not having this options in Quicken is probably A Good Thing. It might just be to darned easy to make a series of entries only to find out you've been working in the wrong file for the last 15 minutes!

Quote downloads have been a problem in Quicken generally for years and years. You can go over to the Quicken Community section of the Quicken site and read about the issue for hours, if you wish.

One thing I *have* asked Quicken to do - with no effect, of course - is to have the program require your permission to download historical quotes for periods you've "closed" via the File > Passwords >

Transaction mechanism. Quicken provides its own quotes and those quotes may be different than the ones you see on your broker's statement. So if you've "closed" a period, having reconciled/adjusted to the broker's statement, Quicken can make an invisible "prior period adjustment" if a stock quote it provides is different than the one you used off the broker's statement.

No comment here since I've not had to do that.

In Q2007D the Edit > Find & Replace could serve this function. Again, I've never needed to do this.

In the reconcile window of Q2007D I can check or uncheck a transaction, move down several lines and, while holding down the shift key, click on another transaction and all the transactions in between are checked/unchecked.

Maybe where were going here is you should consider the PC version of Quicken?

Over in the Windoze world I'd say that online help is weak, at best.

Tom Young

Tom,

Thanks for the suggesti> When a file is open in my Q2007D the file name is shown in the top bar

Not there in the Mac version. Lazy Mac programmer.

I get by by double clicking on the file rather than opening Quicken and letting it open the (not displayed) last file open. Or I then specifically open the file I want, not trusting which one is open.

Nope, lazy Mac programmer.

I'm happy with only one open at a time. But the Mac behavior makes one worry that it might have more than one open.

Good to know. Thanks! But pretty sad when you think about it.

I haven't gotten that advanced yet. Still learning to walk with it.

I'll investigate this but didn't think it would work on fields that it wouldn't let me edit directly. Clicking on a pesky "R" just popped up the non-intuitive reconcile windows (non intuitive if you just wanted to wholesale un-reconcile everything because you had edited reconciled transactions and wanted to start over).

I think I tried that, but maybe not. With so many things not behaving as expected, I tended to drop to the smallest subset of simple commands that I know I could rely on to work properly.

No. I'll consider another finance program first. Or just drop back to spreadsheets of my own making as I have in the past. They don't download transactions, but after all the work I've just done, that doesn't look so bad, and I'd have FULL programmatic control over it.

Over the last year I've fully moved from Windoze to Mac. And I'll only run native Mac programs. I refuse to run Crossover, vmware, bootcamp or the like because then you have a Windoze virtual machine that needs a license, care and feeding of brain dead patches, updates, need for third party virus and security software because M$ can't protect its own, etc. etc. ($$). I just say no to anything Windoze these days and avoid all that. I've found native applications for 100% of my old Windoze needs, and now will not even consider anything new now that doesn't have a native Mac version.

Thanks!

One thing you might do - assuming the Mac version allows it - is to make each file visually different. (I do this even though the file name *is* displayed just to try an ensure I'm not making entries in the wrong file.) Edit > Preferences > Quicken Program > Quicken Colors can make up to 4 files look different color-wise.

Tom Young

When you start up Quicken, you can see the file that has been selected, for a moment on the splash screen. Once that passes, you are correct, you cannot tell which file was opened. One way to be absolutely sure which file has been opened is to double click the data file rather than the appicaltion to start up Quicken.

I would agree that this is odd, you just open the new file without closing the old.

Correct.

Correct.

I think that what you have discovered is that Quicken for Mac is a truly terrible appilcartion that is porrly designed, porrly implemented for the Mac platform. Intuit in fact recognizes that fact and announced a complete repalcement but since that news nothing has been seen or heard from Inutit on this.

Thanks for the input. But ouch!

Is there a good Mac financial package other than Quicken?

With no progress for so long we can just assume Mac Quicken is a lost cause? Is there any way to verify that? I am telling everybody about my Quicken experience, and for some reason I can never remember to mention Mac when I tell them its failings.

Thanks!

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