VAT a bit keen with personal details on its web-site

Nothing that can't be found out by anyone who really wants to. If I have a name and a vague idea of where that person lives, it is possible for me to get all sorts of information about them, with a bit of digging.

Marcus

Who care's - they are criminals. And not surprising (for me anyway) that they are all ethnics. Not that I'm drawing any conclusion from it, but it does seem to be common in a lot of things involving frauds of one sort or another (be it VAT, benefit, car identity etc) that there is a particular prevalence of ethnics being reported. Either ethnics get a distrorted press attention from it, they're not particularly good at it (hence why they get caught) or the white majority don't do it (as much!).

All race groups have their share of good and bad folk. I have met many decent law abiding Asians and very few bad ones. It was an Asian doctor who saved my father's eyesight when he got chemicals splashed in them, yet it was a white GP who didn't care enough to recognise his heart problem and let him die.

I'm a white English person but I mostly find myself ashamed of people from my own ethnic background. Having lived overseas for many years and returning to England six years ago I had forgotten just how scummy many white English folk can be. But you just have to stand around in any shopping street and listen to the conversation, mothers telling their little children to stop f*****g about, tramps picking up cigarette butts, drunks staggering around, opportunistic thieves looking for an opportunity. There are so many lazy white English people claiming dole, housing allowance, disability, in fact any benefit fraud they can think of that they can get away with, yet they are cabaple of work but choose not to. Where has their pride gone?

So don't start with your racist 'most frauds are Asian' rant because most who live here in England know the truth, even if they fail to accept it.

snip crap

Go back overseas and live with them then.

INRI

No.

How about accepting that there may be some truth in the other posters statement, and wondering what might be done to prevent/improve the situation, and then doing something it about it.

oh dear ! wake up & smell the coffee

although your post is all fluffy & nice & politically correct, you are way off the mark. get real man, just think about the post you responded to in a bit more depth, without trying to sound all 'right - on'

In a previous retail job:

people. (in my opinion) [The figures arn't accurate but they're not far off]

I'm not racist at all but when figures like the first one stare you in the face it's hard not to think that ethnic minorities are responsible for more crime than white people. I'd be willing to bet that criminal records reflect a similiar pattern but they're kept secret to stop us turning into a nation of racists.

I've included the second figure to say that although I believe there is a higher crime rate among ethnic minorities most of them are perfectly decent people and shouldn't be sterotyped.

So? This kind of anecdotal "evidence" is so full of holes its hardly worth commenting on. Where was it? What kind of theft? Is distorted by a small number of persistent offenders? Is it based on people caught by the police or actual thefts.

For example 90% of thieves could be white and 90% of thefts could be by asians (or vice versa).

As a counter-anecdote I've witnessed a number of violent attacks during my life and 100% of them were by white people.

Thom

"Thom" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@lboro.ac.uk... | Marx Peterson wrote: | > 80% of thefts were by ethnic minorities. (from records) | | So? This kind of anecdotal "evidence" is so full of holes its hardly | worth commenting on. Where was it? What kind of theft? Is distorted by a | small number of persistent offenders? Is it based on people caught by | the police or actual thefts. | | For example 90% of thieves could be white and 90% of thefts could be by | asians (or vice versa). | | As a counter-anecdote I've witnessed a number of violent attacks during | my life and 100% of them were by white people. | | Thom

There is a high probability that statistical statements are intended to mislead particularly when no detail of population or time interval in relative or absolute terms is disclosed. In fact the government are very good at this.

Quite a number of years ago, I was burgled. No specious damage was done to my flat. For that reason, I believed that the burglars must not not have been 'white'. By the way, I am extremely white :-) It is true that they might as well have been tartan, since nobody was ever apprehended.