VAT debt in a Ltd Co of £800. In part due to their wrongful repayment after a visit - the rest because of trading ceasing due to illness.
Apart from a bailiff (there are no assets), what other steps can they take?
What powers do bailiffs have where the business is run from a private dwelling? Are there likely to be difficulties over personal property?
repayment
What's a "wrongful repayment"?
They can apply for a winding up order on the company and pursue the directors personally for the money.
property?
I don't have an answer for this bit.
You need to give more information. Is the company still registered for VAT? If so, why? You say it has ceased trading. What's the debt made up of?
Robert Killington visit
Thanks, Robert, i missed this last Year ;-)
They counducted a visit, got their own sums wrong and made a £450 repayment in error. I didn't realise the error until audit. By that time had become quite seriously ill.
Pursue me personally? Are you sure? What happened to limited liability?
Its a simple matter of trading ceasing due to illness. There has been no wrongful or illegal trading. We're talking of £400/£800 here.
Just never got around to dereg.
Well mainly the sume mentioned above. They say I owe £800 but I dispute that. Their figures do not agree with those of my auditor that have been accepted by the IR/Co Hse.
Okay.
They can apparently, but it might only be for penalties. And Customs have never let little things like the facts get in the way!
Okay. That's not much in the scheme of things.
Then I suggest you do!
Have you sent them anything to explain why they are wrong? I suggest you pay what you think is due, if you have the funds, and after giving them an explanation as to why they are wrong (worded tactfully so you don't accuse them of being wrong!), ask that they reconsider the quantum of the assessment.
Thank you once more, Robert
Does that include a secretary who is NOT a director? I'm astonished at this.
Things have moved on a little as of today. They sent me their "7 days or legal action that may include winding up" petition letter.
How does deregistering help now?
Well yes, I complained about their approach an attitude because they invoked a bailiff without warning. THEY then referred it to their own complaints unit. I said the difference in the figures was down to their errors and a farrago of penalties and cancelled penalties. I sent then the balance sheet of audited accounts (submitted and accepted by Co House and the IR) showing a VAT liability supporting my figures.
They suggested an inspection. I said I would pay to have the files unarchived IF they would agree to halt bailiff action if I was proved to be right. They wouldn't so it was left there. They say they won't accept formally audited accounts!!
I don't I was about to start a contract after returning from the serious illness I mentioned but there seems little point doing it if I can't finish it.
I think we are beyond that. They are just a bunch of fascist, I now think. They are going to spend £2k+ in fees to NOT collect £400, when they could wait and be paid - an amount they returned, wrongly, in the first place . No wonder we don't have an NHS! They are also going to damage a 3rd party creditor (larger than them) who knows what's been happening and has been more than happy to wait for me to return.
Unaccountable law unto themselves. I had considered the Adjudicator's Office and the Parliamentary Ombudsman. However, the timings involved suggest that events will render it futile as they work slower than the Courts
BTW does the £750 rule apply in this case for a WU petition, or not?
IR/Companies House dont audit the accounts
He said director. He didnt say secretary so dont be astonished.
You are breaking the law by not allowing them to inspect your records.
Didn't say they did.
OK, wrong verb maybe. It was an offer of reconciliation, not a required inspection.
He didn't I was asking merely for clarification. My astonsihment refers to Dirctor liability fot VAT and charges as suggested. I take it you don't have any constructive to add.
You said:
"submitted and accepted by Co House and the IR" as if it gave some credence to the figures.
Reading this thread I would suggest your attitude is such that HMC&E would not go out of their way to help you.
You appear to be on your own.
your antagonistic tone is avery poor ad for your services.
I'm not advertising.
People have been trying to help you on here and you come up with comments like:
"They are just a bunch of fascist"
"Unaccountable law unto themselves"
"I take it you don't have any constructive to add."
"Didn't say they did."
You also describe how you demand concessions from HMC&E
It does look like nobody is interested in helping you any more. This is due to your attitude as explained above.
Show some humility after you have said "Just never got around to dereg."
Accountants on here are busy enough without taking on troublemakers.
Peter you are just bad tempered and utterly unreasonable. You input has no worth.
You make assumptions and are disingenous with the facts.
Who on earth would want any dealings with you?
BeanSmart website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.