} > Just so -- my problem is that they've discontinued Basic and } > whatever } > the next-one-up is called, they're scr*wing me into upgrading } > to it... } } I don't understand your reasoning. } } You're not "forced" to upgrade to any newer version; I think } that idea is only in your head.
No quite. Two things:
1) I have an interest in getting this "Quicken only runs properly if you're administrator" badness fixed [I'm assuming that
*by*now
* they've manage to hire a programmer who understands how limited accounts work and how to properly program within the XP (and now Vista) environment and so later versions won't have this problem]
2) I *think* my Q2006 is nearing its 'sunset', isn't it? [I thought it was three years, so come next summer, when Q2009 comes out, if past experience holds, if I want to keep downloading bank statements, etc, I'll have to upgrade [that's the only reason I upgraded to 2006 from 2003: my bank informed me that they would no longer support quicken access from the older version. Same thing happened to me with Q98 and the version before that, so I'm assuming that I'll soon be facing the same thing with my Q2006].
Note that I appreciate that developing Quicken costs money, but the reality is that I'm not one of their 'modern' users: the subset of Quicken Basic functionality I'm using in Q2006 is pretty much identical with the functionality I used in Q98 [I know that 'under the hood' that functionality has actually changed [different protocols for contacting banks, etc]]. But all that fancy stuff hasn't ever really fit my needs.
And as you observed: for $10-or-so a year, Quicken is dirt cheap [for how reliable [modulo the occasional auto-uninstall..:o)] it is and how much I depend on it]. Making that $25-or-so-a-year instead is still relatively cheap, but I'll still almost certainly just continue using my stodgy Q98-basic feature-set.
} ... But if you don't like Intuit, you can switch to } Money ... or to several other lesser personal financial software } packages ... that have no upgrade policies.
I don't understand: I'm not complaining about the upgrade policy but only that they're using that policy to force me into buying a version that's twice as expensive as the version I've been using for a decade or more (is it one thing to have to keep getting new versions every now and then; quite another, IMO, to be pushed into getting FANCIER new versions).
} The cost of a new versi } Bernie Cosell wrote:
} > Just so -- my problem is that they've discontinued Basic and } > whatever } > the next-one-up is called, they're scr*wing me into upgrading } > to it... } } I don't understand your reasoning. } } You're not "forced" to upgrade to any newer version; I think } that idea is only in your head.
No quite. Two things:
1) I have an interest in getting this "Quicken only runs properly if you're administrator" badness fixed [I'm assuming that
*by*now
* they've manage to hire a programmer who understands how limited accounts work and how to properly program within the XP (and now Vista) environment and so later versions won't have this problem]
2) I *think* my Q2006 is nearing its 'sunset', isn't it? [I thought it was three years, so come next summer, when Q2009 comes out, if past experience holds, if I want to keep downloading bank statements, etc, I'll have to upgrade [that's the only reason I upgraded to 2006 from 2003: my bank informed me that they would no longer support quicken access from the older version. Same thing happened to me with Q98 and the version before that, so I'm assuming that I'll soon be facing the same thing with my Q2006].
Note that I appreciate that developing Quicken costs money, but the reality is that I'm not one of their 'modern' users: the subset of Quicken Basic functionality I'm using in Q2006 is pretty much identical with the functionality I used in Q98 [I know that 'under the hood' that functionality has actually changed [different protocols for contacting banks, etc]]. But all that fancy stuff hasn't ever really fit my needs.
And as you observed: for $10-or-so a year, Quicken is dirt cheap [for how reliable [modulo the occasional auto-uninstall..:o)] it is and how much I depend on it]. Making that $25-or-so-a-year instead is still relatively cheap, but I'll still almost certainly just continue using my stodgy Q98-basic feature-set.
} ... But if you don't like Intuit, you can switch to } Money ... or to several other lesser personal financial software } packages ... that have no upgrade policies.
I don't understand: I'm not complaining about the upgrade policy but only that they're using that policy to force me into buying a version that's twice as expensive as the version I've been using for a decade or more (is it one thing to have to keep getting new versions every now and then; quite another, IMO, to be pushed into getting FANCIER new versions).
} The cost of a new version of Quicken every year is incredibly } inexpensive, but under current Intuit policy you are only } "forced" to buy every three years ... making the cost per year } of Quicken so small as to be insignificant: so I still don't see } the problem.
Indeed -- as I said, I'll likely go ahead and buy it [although I'll just wait 'til Q2009 -- if there were a Q2008 Basic [and it fixed the 'you have to be admin' bug], I'd go buy it now... but since there isn't, I'll hold off. Their marketing decision, my purchasing decision. Seems fair...:o)
} Unless it's just that you're just angry because Intuit needs new } revenue in order to keep Quicken alive, but you don't want to } give them any of that revenue.
Not at all. I realize that development of all of that super-fancy stuff that many folk use [budgeting, investment management, trend analysis, fancy graphing, who-knows-what] takes money. It'd just be nice if they still had a place in their heart (and marketing plans) for us folks who do just fine with 'Basic' functionality.
/Bernie\