slowing down

snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid has written on 6/23/2011 7:23 PM:

What is the difference between archiving data and backing it up?

How big is the file?

It is not the entire Quicken file that has a problem, it is this particular one account. Maybe it is corrupted. When I try to open it, Q goes to the "comparing transactions" for that account and stops at the 2% point. Jeff

Hi, Pikov.

An archive is a historical record. We may need to look at the archive next week, next year, or 20 years from now.

We need a backup only long enough to be sure that our current file is accessible and accurate. We hope that we never need the backup. And we sure hope we don't need one from a week or a month or a year ago!

I was wondering that, too. My 20-year-old Quicken QDF file is now a little over 55 MB. It is much bigger than it was in, say, 1998, but if it is any slower, I haven't noticed. And I'm glad that I can look back to the details of transactions for last year or last decade without having to find and open an archive file.

But Jeff didn't say "file"; he said he has "a large account that takes forever to open". See his second post.

RC

-- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.) snipped-for-privacy@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) (Using Quicken Deluxe 2011 R 8 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)

snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid has written on 6/23/2011 7:23 PM:

What is the difference between archiving data and backing it up?

How big is the file?

Hi, Jeff.

See my Reply to Pikov.

I also use Quicken Deluxe 2011 - after using nearly every year's edition since 1990. I don't recall ever having "comparing transaction" - or a 2% point, or any other % point. Please explain, step by step, how you manage to get that message. What kind of account is this: Checking? Cash? Credit Card? Investment???

How large is your file? How many transactions in this one problem account? At least two of my accounts (checking and credit card) have over 3,000 transactions each; is that "large" by your definition?

As I told Pikov, and as we discuss often here, there seems to be no speed benefit in "archiving" transactions and removing them from a Quicken file.

You may need to Validate your file, or make a Copy, which often clears up corruption that might have crept in. John Pollard may have some further, more-focused advice.

RC

-- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.) snipped-for-privacy@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) (Using Quicken Deluxe 2011 R 8 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)

It is not the entire Quicken file that has a problem, it is this particular one account. Maybe it is corrupted. When I try to open it, Q goes to the "comparing transactions" for that account and stops at the 2% point. Jeff

Responses interspersed with older text.

snipped-for-privacy@nospam.>> snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid has written on 6/23/2011 7:23 PM:

What is the difference between archiving data and backing it up?

That account is in the file, is it not? If it is, then the file has a problem. :-)

Is it the file that opens automatically when Q starts, or do you do a File > Open?

R. C. White has written on 6/23/2011 8:35 PM:

I see. I keep them around until I'm sure I'll never need them again. HD space is cheap. :-)

My less-than-a-year-old file is 13MB!!

Thanks for clarifying archive vs. backup.

The file is 145MB in size and opens normally. I had downloaded transactions into quicken using the one step download which downloads into all my accounts. I then went through my accounts and accepted the downloads into the accounts, When I then opened this investment account - which had downloaded transactions to be accepted - it goes to "comparing transactions and stops at the 2% point.

I think the file must be corrupted. Will make a copy and validate the copy.

Pikov Andropov wrote: :: .... :: I see. I keep them around until I'm sure I'll never need them again. :: HD space is cheap. :-) ::

Yes, but HDs go bad eventually (as they say goes, not a question of 'IF', but rather 'WHEN' due to their own problems or electrical spikes, floods, fires, etc.).

So you might consider not only keep an 'archive' on your HD, you might consider burning a CD or DVD and storing it outside your local home as well for additional archival 'security'.

:: --

------------------------------------------------------------- Regards -

- Andrew

I have copies on both internal and external HDs.

Is an "'archive'" different from an "archive"??

Pikov Andropov wrote: :: ... :: Is an "'archive'" different from an "archive"??

WTF??

I emailed Intuit about the problem. Here is what they replied: ........... Jeff, I would like to inform you that it seems that there is some damage in your data file. You need to perform data damage steps to resolve the issue. However, since you are facing this issue after upgrade to Quicken

2011, you need to perform data damage in your prior version of Quicken and reconvert.

======= Note : Damage in Quicken data files may occur for a variety of reasons. It generally occurs when the information stored on your computer's hard disk or on floppy disks becomes damaged. Improperly shutting down the computer, general protection faults, software conflicts, and voltage fluctuations are typical causes of file damage. If the data file contains minor corruption, then the corruption can increase during the conversion process from a lower to a higher version. It can result in such abnormal behavior.

Jeff, I can understand that this is not very easy to going back to prior version and then reconvert. However, we do not have any alternative left as you have already tried validate and super validate steps. Kindly follow the steps mentioned in the link below to validate the data file :

Answer Title: Advanced Troubleshooting to Correct Data File Damage Answer Link:

Once done, please check the status of the issue. If you will face same issue then we do not have any alternative then going back to previous version of Quicken. In this case, you need to do following :

1. Uninstall Quicken 2011 using QcleanUI tool.
2. Install your prior version of Quicken.
3. Open your data file from the backup.
4. Perform data damage steps.
5. Take a backup of repaired data file.
6. Uninstall your prior version using QcleanUI tool.
7. Install Quicken 2011.
8. Try to restore your repaired data file.

Please follow the steps mentioned in the below link to uninstall Quicken program :

Answer Title: Using QcleanUI to uninstall Quicken Answer Link:

Please follow the steps mentioned in the below link to remove damage from your data file :

Answer Title: Basic troubleshooting to correct data file damage Answer Link:

Answer Title: Backing up or restoring a Quicken data file Answer Link: I believe the above mentioned steps will help you to remove corruption from your data file and the issue will be resolved. However, if issue persists, please let me know the status of the issue in detail, so that, I can assist you further to resolve the issue.

I am waiting for your response.

Have a good day!!! ................ Hard to have a good day after that response. It's been 6 months since I moved from the prior version of Quicken!

" snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid" wrote in news:iu4csn$u0b$1 @dont-email.me:

I didn't read all of Intuit's advice, but if you upgraded to Q11, I would have thought that you must have had this slowness already 6 months ago. Although an update in Q11 since you upgraded could conceivably have caught the corruption in those data, while before the update it was not important (this happened before in prior versions of Q). Still, it might be easier to kill that account and to resurrect the data from your FI, or from a printout. Bringing back my question about how many transactions and transfers between accounts are involved ...

That is what I am going to do: kill that account and resurrect from my FI. I don't know how many transactions I have in it but it is not more than any of the others.