Does Intuit/Quicken really have us over a barrel

Quicken is discontinuing support and functionality for Quicken 2005. Is there any other program that can read Quicken files (I don't want to loose existing work) and can download account information from banks and credit card companies?

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Have you tried Quicken 2006? ;-)

Reply to
Andrew DeFaria

You probably don't want to lose your work either.

I have always wondered how the Quicken database format and encryption has gone uncracked all these years. It changes every year, but that probably means that the key is the release date. Intuit has released programs over the years that could dip into the database and pull out numbers. TurboTax is one. These programs start up very quickly so I'm sure they don't read through the entire file. It must be simple, but it has escaped all the hackers!

Reply to
Stubby

Cute

Reply to
chas

It will continue to work. You will no longer get bug fixes, but if you haven't encountered a bug in the program by now there is a very high probability that you won't in the future.

You will no longer receive downloads of stock prices or stock news. You will have to input stock prices yourself if you want them, but you can do that.

And of course Intuit has given you two or three alternatives since you purchased the license to the 2005 version.

Reply to
Bernie

Stunning actually! And quite true!

Reply to
Andrew DeFaria

The problem is lack of competition. My area uses time warner cable and high speed here is like 5 mbps.

Other places that have competition, high speed is more like 15 mbps and the cost is lower.

Reply to
geoff

We must have read the notice differently. Here is an extract. Q. What does the Quicken Service Discontinuation Plan mean to you?

A. It means that after April 30, 2008, online services (such as downloading financial data from your bank, credit card accounts, or investment accounts) and live technical support will no longer be made available through Quicken 2005.

Now to me that means you can't really say "It will continue to work". I has no value to me if I can't use it with my bank account. Sure they gave me a couple of chances to upgrade. Now, since I didn't take advantage of the "chances", I am being forced to.

Reply to
chas

And armed with this wonderfully insightful knowledge you're ready to jump full fledged into the market and make a mint right?

Reply to
Andrew DeFaria

First, I do not know what 'make a mint' means and secondly having a bad day?

Reply to
geoff

Andrew doesn't need any help; but I agree with him. Asking the question as you have demonstrates that you have entered a discussion in which you have nothing to offer.

What the hell is a "top-shelf piece of software"? And how in the world did you become the guru who could make such decisions?

You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

Quicken has an 80% share of the market ... that doesn't leave much for Microsoft. But MS has no excuse for not providing a better product ... they have more than enough resources to create a competetive product. The market has spoken: and the market proves you don't know what you're talking about.

And I bet neither company is making any fortune from their "personal financial management" products: Intuit makes less than

17% (and most likely, considerably less than 17%) of their revenue from Quicken.

Just wish you had something truly informed to say on the subject. You clearly do not know anything about developing software for the personal financial market ... if you know anything at all about developing any product.

Sittiing around in your easy chair and pretending that someone else can, and should, provide you exactly what you want, for exactly the price you want to pay, is the sign of a person who is unable to take responsibility for themselves. A person who thinks their problems are always caused by someone else ... despite the fact that they have no idea how to do any better than that "someone else".

What you better do is thank your lucky stars that Intuit (and Microsoft) continue to provide their PFM products, because it's very clear that you couldn't replace them with any other product, and you couldn't create a product of your own.

Reply to
John Pollard

. . . . Jesus . . . . .

By the way, your suggestion earlier in the day didn't work. Had to create an entirely new mortgage account after the upgrade. Ditto to some extent with editing/correcting of my paycheque. Now all is working and life is grand.

Much too sensitive about software issues . . . . . .

Reply to
Monroe

The place for this comment is in the thread where the discussion exists ... so others can benefit from your "insights".

No: you are too anxious to speak on subjects about which you have no knowledge.

And, as in my previous comment, it matters whether others who might read the posts here will be well informed.

Reply to
John Pollard

As am I. To make up for the screwing I'm taking from Intuit, I cancelled my subscription to TurboTax and used an online service this year for my income taxes, Taxslayer.com. For a few pennies less than $20, I got my federal return along with state returns for both Carolinas filed electronically. I received my tax refunds about three weeks ago.

They've lost me forever with Turbotax. One good screwing deserves another.

What a sleazy outfit. I cancelled my subscription three weeks before they shipped and they shipped Turbotax anyway, then tried to hit my credit card. Too bad. I stopped payment and have free copies of Turbotax that I don't need. Maybe I'll post them on Pirate's Bay.

Reply to
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

I just love to see these rants each year when Intuit drops the 3+ year old versions for on-line support. It amazes me how people seem to think that $40 should get them financial software that will work *FOREVER*.... For crying out loud, we're talking about $10 - 15 per year for some pretty sophisticated software!!!

BTW, many of the rants are about how they can't get stock quotes and download from financial firms. Yahoo! Finance still provides downloading of quotes in CSV format,(still supported by Q08). Just about every credit card, bank and brokerage firm supports downloading transaction information to Q. You may lose the "One Click Update" feature. but you can still get the information pretty easily....

Reply to
Hank Arnold (MVP)

Using that as a basis, why does windows work beyond say 3 years? What about cars, should they not be designed to disable and/or break after 3 years?

Sorry, do not buy it.

Reply to
geoff

When you can get Windows or a new car for $15 a year they will break or disable after 3 years.

Don't be such a cheapskate. You get what you pay for!

Reply to
Hank

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote

If you have no need for the more "advanced" features, then it will effectively work forever.........barring other major changes with the box you are running it on.

I've been using Q since a dos version about 1995 or so. Have only changed twice and both times that was because my version was pre-loaded OEM and I couldn't (easily) port it to a new box. I would be happily running the 1999 version were it not for that problem.

I have to grin a bit when someone with one or two "simple" accounts gets all in a huff when they can't download their transactions anymore. The energy they put into the rant would be better spent just entering their transactions by hand. AFAIK, that has always worked and doesn't "expire" in

3 years! ;-)
Reply to
Ken Abrams

"Make a mint" means make a ton of money. Mints are where money is produced.

No, but apparently you are!

Reply to
Andrew DeFaria

That's because you're not thinking. Does Quicken still work after 3 years or does it suddenly die? The answer is: It still works too. What stops working is online download. Way different than not working.

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Andrew DeFaria

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