Intuit ID still required (RANT: But why?)

WHY is, basically, irrelevant. It's because Intuit instituted that requirement and you have 2 choices: Create the Intuit ID, or don't use Q2014 or later.

It's really fairly simple.

danbrown wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

I for one would like to know what they are going to do with this ID. My Quicken needs are similar to the OP - no fancy jim cracks, bells and whistles, but an application that resides on my own self- controlled computer, using my dta on that computer and with very straight forward access to my banking/broker institutions.

The only reasons cited by Intuit as a need for this ID just don't add up for me.

I see this trend in many apps I use on my smart phone - I find an app that does exactly what I want, no more, no less and then someone in their organization decides that they need to put some feature into the app. In most cases I have observed, these features, while related somewht, don't add to the original app, thay just seem to make an attempt to draw users from other apps to theirs.

John Carter

I think I need to explain my objections to this Intuit ID more clearly so that other people can make their own determinations as to if it is meaningful to them.

These are all self centered thoughts. Intuit needs to convince ME that I need to do create this new account.

- I do not want another long term Online ID that I need track and properly secure. This initially is my biggest issues.

With that comes lots of sub issues to determine what security I will apply to the account:

- I need to understand the purpose of the account and the Intuit FAQ entry does not provide useful information. - Am I creating an account with any access to any of my private information (including banking information)? - Am I going to create a throwaway account to use one time and forget? - Am I going to create a throwaway account that I will bury a password somewhere and forget about? And if/when necessary, I'll just create another throwaway account? - Am I creating an account that is going to have its own social life outside of my financial realm (Community Support, etc)? I would really rather use a separate throwaway account for that anyway.

- The Intuit ID exists in part outside of its association with Quicken (it can line to TurboTax, the Community Support Pages and who knows what else). It is this which is of as much concern and the undocumented relationship between these external components and Quicken. What will Intuit link the Intuit ID to in the future and will I want it or not?

- I created a throwaway Intuit ID yesterday (which is supposedly a single account for all of Intuit) so I could add comments on the Quicken Forums. It turns out that even this Intuit ID is not enough to be able to post of their OTHER support web site: . I had to create another throwaway account to be able to interact there.

- I don't see where I manage the Intuit ID account (which currently only exists outside of Quicken). For example: I seem to recall setting up a security question. I probably stuck a generic answer there that I might want to fix later.

- I don't see how I eventually delete the Intuit ID account when I'm done using it or Quicken.

- There is a pretty horrible recovery process if you lose access to your email address:

As someone else noted: I will either need to accept or reject this change. I have already bought Q2015 but not yet installed it. Intuit has me locked in as a captive customer. I don't like the documentation and uncertainty of this new unnecessary to me change. I hope this can spur the market towards some degree of competition against quicken in the user locally hosted (non-cloud) personal financial management software space (but doubt it)

Note: I do understand that some of my information passes through Intuit Internet based servers for Express Web Connect but that information should be short lived and carefully handled by the banking experts with proper PCI overview. None of my Direct Connect information should touch any Intuit infrastructure at all. The copy of Quicken on my system does get updates to the general Banking Institution information from Intuit in support of Direct Connect. I also assume Intuit makes money consulting and licensing IP to the Banking Industry for implementing Direct Connect at various Banks..

Further note: Additional recent reading indicates that Express Web Connect may actually store your password on Intuit servers for an extended period of time and that those Intuit servers may make requests at other times than when the user initiates the download. Does anyone have pointer to authoritative documentation of this fact? I find this especially troublesome and would expect that my financial institutions would block traffic from any such known sources. I will need to review my 3 credit cards which currently only support Express Web Connect to see if I really need those cards.

Stuart Barkley

"John Carter" wrote The only reasons cited by Intuit as a need for this ID just don't add up for me

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It is your choice: if you don't like the Intuit ID, you are welcome not to use it ... therefore to refrain from downloading to Quicken.

All Quicken basic functions - the primary reason for the existence of the application - will continue to function as they always have.

BTW, that "not downloading to Quicken" INCLUDES release updates ... i.e., Bug Fixes

But, Intuit doesn't need to convince you of anything. The situation is, quite simply and irrefutably, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

It is sounding like this Intuit ID thing 'is' something to stop and consider before upgrading (again). Appreciate the comments.

And I never did hear a clear response . . . . For example, if I use Web Connect with my bank, is this Intuit ID required in order to download financial information from the bank into Quicken? I don't consider that feature some 'extra' but at this stage pretty much one of the core features of any software of this type.