Does Intuit/Quicken really have us over a barrel

Damn straight! Thanks John.

And the topic was not even about whether or not Quicken was good vs. bad

- just that old versions of Quicken have had their online transaction download service discontinued.

Ah yes the pompous! Gotta love 'em. On the plus side such people are probably constantly disappointed...

I agree.

There are others to respond to but it is more fun responding to you. You seem so high strung about this and you got the sand bags up defending your position.

You can be as smart ass as you want but what you are saying doesn't fly. Looking forward to your next zingers.

"geoff" wrote

Two things:

Without a quote or other reference, it is not possible to tell exactly who you are referring to. AND While some groups seem to thrive on goading others into sensless arguements, this is not (usually) one of them. I'd prefer to keep it that way.

You need to switch your reader to thread view, there is a posting and one response, me.

He stated his opinion and I disagree with him, however, he seems to love to repeat himself over and over. He can say the same things as many times as he wants, it still doesn't fly.

"geoff" wrote

I would say that he is not the only one with an ego problem............but I won't because that really accomplishes nothing useful.

My rant isn't that I expect it to work forever. It's that I expect the new software to be at least as good as the old software - which it clearly ISN'T.

I'd rather pay the same money just to get another three years out of my old program.

Sorry, I can't answer your question(s). But I have one of my own. Am I the only Quicken user that prefers to NOT download their Bank/Broker/CC data? I mean, by doing that, don't you eliminate the whole point of the "Reconcile" function? I like to know my bank/broker/CC hasn't screwed up and reconciling my account(s) each month is the way I do that. It only takes a minute. And please don't tell me they don't make mistakes. The reason I know they screw up is because I *don't* just download their numbers without reconciling them to mine. Or maybe I'm missing something?

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I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that "Calab" wrote on Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:41:35 GMT in alt.comp.software.financial.quicken :

Hear, hear.

I found Q2005 so useful, that in 2006 I found nothing better. Which is what I've been using since then - nothing.

tschus pyotr

-- pyotr filipivich Monotheism, someone has said, offers two simple axioms: 1) There is a God. 2) It's not you.

Yep, I agree, you done now or you have some more points to make?

He may not but after this, "zinger" I think you call them, I have one point to make to you....

I download all my transactions, but have a series of 'canned' reports organized by how the paperwork comes to me at the end of each month by FI. That way, I can easily see if my Q numbers match the paper numbers. Best of both worlds; I don't have to enter a series of digits (with purchasing of fractional shares of dividend stocks each month, that can lead to errors rather easily...). As Ronnie once said, "Trust, but verify"!

thanks, That is useful advice.

You need to learn how news servers and readers work. Not all news servers receive the same messages in the same ordering and timing as yours. As such what you said is not necessarily what others see. This is why people quote in the first place.

So says you. Yet clearly millions of others say differently. They vote with their wallets and they purchase the new version. Most of them know nothing about this news group so you don't hear them here bitching nor praising. Yet Intuit has millions of customers. What you think of their software is largely irrelevant. But I got a solution for you - Go out and buy something else more suited to your liking!

Yes you are missing something. You're assuming that online download replaces your own data entry. Yes I know, many lazy asses out there use it that way. But I don't. I still enter my data. When things download I

On the plus side, when reconciliation time comes around it's usually a snap.

because of Online Investing Download Problems but also because it occurs to me that in order for online investment downloads to be useful one would need to have a fair amount of transactions happening. I mean why bother if you do 1-5 transactions a year?

Yet in order to do 1-5 transactions a month or a week you would be incurring a lot of investment expenses! I mean each time you send a check to some broker then tell them to buy stocks on your behalf, doesn't it cost you a certain amount of money? I mean let's say I want to sock away say $50 a week. But it costs me what like $5-$10 each trade or roughly 10-20% just to invest! So I wait instead and do it monthly ($200 with $5-$10 being much less percentage wise). But then I only have

Or if I was substantial amounts weekly (like $200-$500) then hell I'd probably just pay somebody to handle my investing transaction if I had that much money!

Now there may be some advantage to online investment download in that it verifies what you've entered to what your broker thinks happened. However I find that way too often the accounting system the broker uses is way different than Quicken and things don't match up. Trying to keep track of investments is a nightmare and brokerage firms make it no easier (refer to the link above - I have more horror stories but I've stopped documenting them).

So how does utilize Online Investment Download to their advantage?

Works for me . . .

I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh*t about the content of your posts.

Windows works beyond three years n the same way that Quicken works beyond three years (although the length of time may be different). Microsoft discontinues support for older releases of Windows after a period of time. Windows still works, and you are unlikely to encounter a new bug, but just as in Quicken. When new hardware comes out the chances are good that the old operating system will not support the new hardware. When new application software comes out, it may not work with the old operating system. You get to choose what you want and how you want to spend your money.

And with cars, although your car will continue to work if you maintain it well, eventually parts will no longer be available for it. I believe manufacturers keep parts on hand for about seven years.