Quicken Home & Business 2011 in the UK

Oct 31, 2010 11 Replies

Plan A: Use US version of Quicken 2011 in the United Kingdom



I live in the UK and started using Quicken in April 1992. In 2004 Intuit withdrew Quicken from the UK market leaving their UK customers with Quicken Release 2 CD 2004IU2042002/2 for Windows (R) 95, 98, 2000, Me, XP. Happily this has proved to be a particularly stable version.



However I like my software to be up to date, and even installation CDs deteriorate. Three weeks ago I discovered that Amazon UK didn't supply Quicken and Amazon US said they did not supply it outside the USA and Canada. Then, a week later, on 19 October 2010, they emailed to offer me Quicken Home & Business 2011. I ordered it and it was dispatched from Amazon Export Sales, Lexington, KY, USA on 21 October 2010 and arrived here on 25 October 2010.



I installed it, setting it up in a different folder from the 2004 version. After all, I had the full version of Q2011, not just an update. In spite of that it uninstalled my 2004 version and went through all the motions of picking up my data and updating them to the latest format. It then popped up a message saying:



"! European files are not supported in the US version of Quicken. Please keep using your old foreign version for tax support. You can use QIF to transfer watch lists. [OK]" - a bit of a cheek seeing as how it had just trashed my "old foreign version".



Well my tax doesn't need much help from Quicken. But then the installation wanted me to give it the login details for my banks which I was not prepared to do for two reasons: first the details are confidential and if given to anyone else would, as I see it, be a security failure and in breach of my agreement with the banks: second and more importantly I use Quicken INDEPENDENTLY to reconcile with what my banks are recording, and so I do not wish to have information from banks flowing directly into Quicken. However my refusal to give Quicken my bank login details left Quicken 2011 unusable, though I have no idea why. I feel there must be some way of using Quicken



2011 for my own entries without it having to connect to any bank - have I overlooked something? I shall be grateful for any guidance.

Plan B: Nurse UK version of Quicken 2004 along until it HAS to be replaced and then think again



If I can't get Quicken 2011 to work how I want, I shall have to take advantage of Intuit's 60-day money back guarantee. And I have taken extra precautions by backing up my old Quicken 2004 CD using Virtual CD

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I shall nurse that along until it becomes too much of a relic. But then what? I have installed Moneydance and been impressed that, with the exception of my investment portfolio, it picked up my bank accounts onwards from 1992 and was immediately usable. But I like Quicken, and, on my brief encounter with it, Moneydance
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seemed crude by comparison. Anyway I would rather not have to learn another system after enjoying complete satisfaction with Quicken for 18 years. I am not very happy with Plan B and shall be grateful for suggestions.



DougS



To avoid having Quicken uninstall other versions during the install process, hold down CTRL+SHIFT when clicking the first "Next" button in the install dialog.

You're not obliged to give Quicken any information about your financial institutions - not even their name. Giving Quicken that information would not be in violation of any agreement I can think of (indeed, the financial institutions that download to Quicken know that you must give Quicken information about your accounts with them) ... it just - most likely - wouldn't do you any good, since the U.S. version of Quicken will only download from U.S. financial institutions.

The second dialog box in the new account setup has a blue link at the bottom called "Advanced Setup"; click that link.

"John Pollard" wrote in message news:iajshc$me4$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org... (snip) To avoid having Quicken uninstall other versions during the install process, hold down CTRL+SHIFT when clicking the first "Next" button in the install dialog. (snip) The second dialog box in the new account setup has a blue link at the bottom called "Advanced Setup"; click that link.

There's a fairly good reason that Quicken wants to uninstall other versions; different versions don't always play nicely together. I can't recall any critical problems - no data is damaged, for example - but problems of inconvenience, perhaps some features not working. Generally, my experience is that the most recently installed version gets the best treatment.

I have a machine with about 6 versions of Quicken installed. Several have small idiocyncrasies due to one, or more, of the other versions being installed; but Q2011 and Q2004 seem to be getting along pretty well.

There's a fairly good reason that Quicken wants to uninstall other versions; different versions don't always play nicely together. I can't recall any critical problems - no data is damaged, for example - but problems of inconvenience, perhaps some features not working. Generally, my experience is that the most recently installed version gets the best treatment. I have a machine with about 6 versions of Quicken installed. Several have small idiocyncrasies due to one, or more, of the other versions being installed; but Q2011 and Q2004 seem to be getting along pretty well. (snip)

John, thanks for your further thoughts. Six versions installed concurrently? I'm seriously impressed, and so hope that you will be able to advance my cause a little further.

Now that I have reinstalled Q2011(US) and specified a preference for

*Multicurrency support* and changed my home currency from *U.S. Dollar* to *U.K. Pound Sterling*, can you think of any workaround to drag my last 18 years of data out of Q2004(UK) into Q2011(US)? I can get them into Moneydance (though without my portfolio and it looks as though my original 1992 opening balances will have to be inserted), so it should, I feel, be possible to get it into another version of Quicken. After all that would offer a route back for all the UK customers that Intuit abandoned in 1994, so I think they have every reason to make it easy. But I seem stuck when I reach: ** "! European files are not supported in the US version of Quicken. Please keep using your old foreign version for tax support. You can use QIF to transfer watch lists. [OK]" **

OK, I could start again and keep Q2004(UK) for historical reference. After

18 years there almost certainly be advantages in re-categorising and so forth. I doubt that I am likely to be much inconvenienced by using the US version in the UK am I? Are there any specific stock market incompatibilities I am likely to encounter?

If anyone in the UK is happily using a recent US version of Quicken, please give me the benefit of your experience.

DougS

Quicken will not give you any help converting from a non-US version. I believe your only hope is QIF file export/import. Despite what you may have read, you can import QIF files into newer versions of Quicken.

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The method in that post assumes you already have an account setup in the Quicken file that you're importing into, for each account/QIF file you import.

Before importing transactions, you might want to export/import as many "lists" as you can. Category, for sure; maybe Memorized transactions and Securities.

You could also give an alternate approach a try. Rather than exporting each account to a separate QIF file, you could export "All Accounts" from Q2004, then import "All Accounts" into Q2011. When "All Accounts" are selected, there is no need to massage the QIF file before importing. I'm pretty sure Q2011 will allow you to import "All Accounts", but there may still be some glitches ... and I havn't tested importing all accounts in so long, I've forgotten what those glitches might be. I think if you take the All Accounts approach, you also don't have to handle the Lists separately; you'd just include them in the export.

U.S. version knows nothing about UK taxes.

And it spells that gradually disappearing financial instrument, "check" rather than "cheque". :)

Quicken won't be able to download prices for any but U.S. and Canadian securities. [But if Yahoo can get the prices you want, a free program called "Netstock" could probably also get those prices and create a comma delimited file you can import into Quicken.] Also, U.S. versions of Quicken can only hold securities in an account denominated in the same currency as the security.

Quicken will not give you any help converting from a non-US version. I believe your only hope is QIF file export/import. Despite what you may have read, you can import QIF files into newer versions of Quicken.

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The method in that post assumes you already have an account setup in the Quicken file that you're importing into, for each account/QIF file you import.

Before importing transactions, you might want to export/import as many "lists" as you can. Category, for sure; maybe Memorized transactions and Securities.

You could also give an alternate approach a try. Rather than exporting each account to a separate QIF file, you could export "All Accounts" from Q2004, then import "All Accounts" into Q2011. When "All Accounts" are selected, there is no need to massage the QIF file before importing. I'm pretty sure Q2011 will allow you to import "All Accounts", but there may still be some glitches ... and I havn't tested importing all accounts in so long, I've forgotten what those glitches might be. I think if you take the All Accounts approach, you also don't have to handle the Lists separately; you'd just include them in the export.

U.S. version knows nothing about UK taxes.

And it spells that gradually disappearing financial instrument, "check" rather than "cheque". :)

Quicken won't be able to download prices for any but U.S. and Canadian securities. [But if Yahoo can get the prices you want, a free program called "Netstock" could probably also get those prices and create a comma delimited file you can import into Quicken.] Also, U.S. versions of Quicken can only hold securities in an account denominated in the same currency as the security.

One trick that might help is to run one of the versions in a virtual environment using something like Virtual PC or VMWare. If you're using the right variety of Windows 7, Windows XP mode is a free download.

Also, while you are doing your conversion you are inevitably going to want to see balances or something in your old Quicken. This allows you to run both versions at once.

Mike

Like you, I am tryng to use 2011 in UK - seems to work well but biggest problem seems to be importing security prices.

Has any progress been achived on this as I also bought 2010 to replace my

2004 and have the same problem.

Regards John

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I use Quicken 2011 in the UK. Look up Operation Modernisation in the threads, which was me moving from Quicken 2002 UK to Quicken Deluxe

2011 (US).

It was a pain to achieve to be honest. I had to first transfer my account through MS Money, the only app I found which correctly interpreted the balances, transfers etc.. I then installed Quicken 2011 and imported the MS Money file - all worked fine.

I never hit the problem mentioned by the original poster where I -had- to enter bank details. Mine worked straight off without being forced to enter anything. The trick was getting it into a format where Money could import it. Here's the thread:

(I'm not part of those 'forums' - looks like they just swipe Usenet archives. Fine - works well for me in this case).

Scroll until you see the 27th Nov post (6:50pm) from me. It was as much fun as it sounds.

Cheers, Ian

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