Road Tax CCJ

At 17:17:50 on 05/12/2005, G.Seth delighted uk.finance by announcing:

Is it?

Sounds like a good idea to me if it stops people avoiding a tax.

Rob Graham

In message , G.Seth writes

Can you point us to a reference for this?

What a good citizen you are....

In message , G.Seth writes

Hmm, this seems unfair if they also prosecuting, which they seem to be doing as well.

At 18:44:33 on 06/12/2005, john boyle delighted uk.finance by announcing:

Why? They can always pay up within 30 days (or whatever it is). Or they can pay before it even gets to the court. Or, of course, they could pay for the tax disc to start with.

In message , Alex writes

This isnt logical. If a DVLA inspector finds a car without tax then the owner is prosecuted and usually fined. Where does the debt come into it?

G.Seth wrote

Ahhh, County Court Judgement. I thought it was Car Crushing Judgement. A tow-away-and-crush policy would work better, I would have thought.....

At 23:18:45 on 06/12/2005, john boyle delighted uk.finance by announcing:

Non-payment of the fine? Non-payment of the tax disc fee they still owe?

In message , Alex writes

Non payment of fines do NOT become CCJs.

Only if the car is still on the road. These days the DVLA inspectors remove the car on the spot. They only have evidence of the car being untaxed for the minute or so that they observe it before the cart it away. Maximum tax owing is one month. Not worth a CCJ and possibly below the minimum. There must be more to it than that.

In message , Gordon writes

I think that is already in place.

john boyle wrote

The only motoring offence for which I have been reported (in 55 years!) was failure to display a Road Fund Licence after I had forgotten to put the new disc in place. I offered to produce it if the cop followed me the two miles home, but he said: "No, I'll report it as 'No tax disc' and they'll check and find it has been renewed and you probably won't hear anything further".

Then I got the summons, and decided to go to court, where I apologised for my forgetfulness and got a nice smile and an unconditional discharge from the lady Chair of the magistrates.

So if I do the same again and forget to put the new disc in for 30 days, will my car be towed away, even though it is currently taxed.

PS: This IS uk.rec.motoring_offenders isn't it?

Why should I pay taxes and others not? If we all paid our taxes we would all have to pay less. It's not a question of being a good or bad citizen.

Rob

The problem is that people who actively avoid paying their tax, run away from debts and claim benefits that they are not entitled to, get away with it, with ease! Whilst hard working, honest middle class folk who may accidentally slip up once in a while, like forgeting to send in there SORN declaration, or breaking the speed limit by 2mph, get clobbered with big unnecessary fines, no excuses allowed.

Adrian Smith wrote

Tell us, how many points has a hard working, honest, middle class bloke like yourself got on his licence? Remember - you said "honest". ;-)

Beleive it or not I don't have any points.

But my brother has had his car hit twice by uninsured, untaxed and no license drivers. One of the drivers was banned as a result and simply carried on driving.

Adrian Smith wrote

In our local paper every week are cases where drivers appear in court for repeat offences of being over the drink limit or, no insurance, no licence, driving whilst banned, etc. The defence lawyer always finds something nice to say about the wretches. (Always seems to be the same female lawyer BTW, no doubt paid via legal Aid).