Store Operations 2.0 Licensing

andy - in relation to your questions;

2 - no - the license key is per device and is therefore fixed to the first

3 - once you have licensed the application on the device, it can access as many databases as required (albeit one at a time).

"Andy Miller - Teknor, > I'm curious to how the licensing is going to be handled with Store Operations

This licensing setup seems to be taking a "huge step" backwards.

Let's take the very simple scenario of a single user license for POS and you have 3 systems with RMS completely installed on it - 1 being the DB server,

With today's dongle setup - no problems. With license keys - it appears you are "dead in the water" unless you want to pay for a 2nd license key that you really hope to never use - and OBTW, also pay support charges for 2 POS stations each year.

I guess that it's only a step 'backwards' if you're an end user. For MS, it's a huge leap *forwards*.

Always look on the bright side... Tom

I totally agree. I have about 10 stations that I use to access three licenses. This allows multiple people at thier desktop to be a POS while having only as many licenses as you need to run concurrently.

A huge step backward is absolutely tright, and I am glad this came up, because now I have a major reason I CANNOT "upgrade" to 2.0.

Boneheaded...

I agree - I have had my main POS crash at very awkward times, and have operated off a laptop or another machine for up to 2 days while fixing the primary POS. I keep backup scanner, rect printer, and cardswipe on hand at all times, just in case. POS hardware should be easily replaceable in case of theft, break-in, robbery, etc. Ever have a customer take out your register screen while swinging around a 10 length of pipe to get the barcode closer to the scanner?

I would much rather have a hardware d> I totally agree. I have about 10 stations that I use to access three

Not that I have ANY thought of upgrading because of the licensing issue, but what is the PO receiving resolution you are speaking of?

OH MY GOD..

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!

You have to DECLARE which computers will be opening POS??? That totally stinks and is not fair.

I bought this program because we have MANY computers that do back-office functions and only a few entering orders. We have ONE cash register in our store, and ONE shipping computer.

MANY functions MUST be done in POS only---like entering a PAYMENT...which is a BACK-OFFICE function but must be done is POS. So what do I have to do....go out of my office, down stairs to one of my employees computers and enter the payment??????

All my employees have their OWN computers, but EVERYONE can enter orders. This FORCES us to have to SHARE computers between employees since now only ONE of my computers will be able to enter orders.

Changing to PER DEVICE from PER USER is a BREECH of trust and a SIGNIFICANT change to the very nature of the program itself. It is NOT WHAT I PAID FOR!

So instead of 3 licenses, I must have SIX!!!!!????????? double?? You are insane. (all add-on programs are charged PER LANE also! that's more $$$$)

I will never upgrade and I will immediately start looking for another POS solution.

AFTER ALL THIS MONEY AND TIME. .....I feel r@ped.....and pregnant.

Thanks Microsoft.

--------my post keeps getting deleted---------------

"Steve @ CTS Retail" wrote:

Why did Microsoft delete this thread?

Steve @ CTS Retail wrote:

I normally follow the forum using the Newsreader in Outlook Express, so I still see the thread. I then went over to IE, went to the RMS discussion forum and this thread still shows up - right now with 9 entries.

I agree that the switch to per machine licensing is a significant drawback of RMS 2.0, however that is not my main issue.

I originally bought a 4-9 lane license because I needed 4 lanes. Now I have to pay maintenance on 9 lanes in the new system which is more than my original purchase price! I can't even get a phone call back from Microsoft.

Even with all the complaints and shortcomings of RMS 2.0 I still think you would have a hard time finding a POS with similar features for anywhere close to the price of RMS. Believe me I did a lot of searching. There's also the issue of training. RMS's POS is so easy to use my 6 year old can run it. Oh there's other packages out there, but to be able to customize like you can RMS it's big bucks. I agree there's lots of shortcomings with RMS, but in my opinion it's still the best you can get for the money. Craig

Um, you may be right, bit the point is that 2.0 is a step backward. The new features (the ones that actually work) are negligible, and they have REDUCED value by restricting licensing further. Maybe we can say that RMS 1.3 is the best value out there, but 2.0 is certainly less valuable to me.

I agree with you on that one. I've always had a copy at home to do testing on including POS. Now I can't test POS anymore because of having to enter the license keys. I definitly don't want to purchase another license just so I can test receipt formats, etc. This is definitly a problem, and I hope MS comes up with a way we can do this. So far though that's the only issue I have with 2.0 Craig

I agree that the switch to per machine licensing is a significant drawback of RMS 2.0, however that is not my main issue.

I originally bought a 4-9 lane license because I needed 4 lanes. Now I have to pay maintenance on 9 lanes in the new system which is more than my original purchase price! I can't even get a phone call back from Microsoft.