Quicken 2015

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rks) whereby the Download and Reminder tabs section is collapsed when you l and in any account unless there are indeed downloaded transactions. Hallelu jah! Nothing adverse experienced.

Download from Intuit for $64.99 some weeks ago. At time Amazon & others wer e more and I do not subscribe to Amazon Prime.

Al wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

This is weird. Amazon is selling the downloadable version for $84.76. But they will ship you a copy on CD for $69.99. Usually the CD version is more expensive.

Assuming one uses TurboTax, and Intuit continues the usual policy of a bundle of both TT and Q in November, I don't see why people at this point in late October are considering buying a standalone version of Q?

FWIW, when I got tangled up with the Vanguard switchover, after trying "everything" including Quicken Support spending almost 2 hours with me on the phone (after a couple of Chat sessions) - all of which failed, Quicken gave me 2015 as the fix. And fix it, it did including some of the other annoying issues I was experiencing with 2014.

RIch

Hi, Charlie.

As I posted here on 10/9/14:

Q 2015D has been working fine for me. (Most noticeable difference is that

2015 shows my Credit Score just below my Net Worth; since my score is good, I like to see it. ) Very little difference from 2014; mostly just evolutionary from prior years. But I like to (1) stay up to date and (2) support Intuit and encourage them to continue producing and updating Quicken and TurboTax. In my opinion, $60 per year ($5 per month) is a small price to pay for this.

RC

-- -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.) snipped-for-privacy@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) (Using Quicken Deluxe 2015 R3 and Windows Live Mail in Win8.1 x64)

May I ask - where did you get Q 15 and what did you pay for it?

Andrew, I went to 2015 because I was SO *(&^$#@ upset in 2014 with the alwa ys-open reminder section at bottom of every register whether any downloads/ reminders existed or not. If I did not express myself to completely reflect my feelings about the open section I know there are a lot of other symbols and non-Roman alphabets I can string together for you.....

I'd just remind everyone about that internet adage: If you aren't paying for it (and sometimes even if you are), you are the product being sold. Notes the TOS for the score:

You agree that we may use and analyze your information as follows: (a) present you an overview of your credit profile including detailed information where available; (b) provide you with customized recommendations and general information about you; and (c) and other communication based on your information. Intuit may send you information via email, text or online display or other means of delivery in Intuit's reasonable sole discretion. We may also aggregate and evaluate your information to do statistical analysis to provide historical or comparative information and to improve Intuit products and services.

You certainly did now! :-)

I agree that it is annoying and I too look forward to that fix. I guess my tolorence for that pain is more than yours in this particular regard, but I do understand.

I think I bought a release of Q a couple of years ago simply because it gave me the new ability to filter a register via a text box in a single account which I thought was a nicety.

Enjoy Q 2015....I'm right behind you when the TT/Q bundle appears.

Al, a question - when I updated from Q2013 to Q2014, my Online Center/Financial Institution List was disabled and I had to resetup each Financial Institution in Q2015 to again use the Online Center for downloads. Did you have this problem going from 2014 to 2015? Still trying to get insights prior to upgrading.

Thanks charliec

Sorry, typing mistake - that should have said "Financial Institution in Q2014" - not Q2015! charliec

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always-open reminder section at bottom of every register whether any downlo ads/reminders existed or not. If I did not express myself to completely ref lect my feelings about the open section I know there are a lot of other sym bols and non-Roman alphabets I can string together for you.....

Charlie, I faced no issues with disabled FI stuff or anything else of notic e except the blessed closing of the reminder sections.

Ok, thanks - I will wait for the combo package with TurboTax and go for it!

As part of my to be continued ranting against the Intuit ID (which I'm still against, but will probably have to accept), I've also actually read some of the various Terms of Service, License Agreement, Privacy Statements, Sides of Boxes and other things written by Intuit. Many of these do not make sense or are slowly becoming very sloppy for the Quicken user. Some of them have been changed over the years and but internal inconsistencies still exist. Some things have had subtle changes generally for the worse.

Some examples:

Side of box (QW2015):

"...online banking services, now referred to as bank feeds..." The side of the box seems to be the only place Intuit refers to online banking as "bank feeds". I haven't found any other place with those words.

An Internet Connection is now listed as required. In fact, it is now impossible to use QW2015 without online activation. You are unable to use QW2015 on a dedicated never Internet connected system. QW2014 had a "Use Quicken without connecting" link on the registration page but this is no longer there.

"Intuit will support Quicken 2015 until April 30, 2018 as set forth in our full policy available at

": It used to be that only the online access quit functioning at that time, not the entire product. I don't know when that changed since I don't have my older boxes. Also, the link does not say anything useful about QW2015 sunset policy. At this time it explains mostly about the QW2012 sunset in 2015 and when older versions sunset. Maybe the good part of this is that Intuit will actually support it with patches and improvements after June of 2015 and on until 2018.

License agreement issues:

The QW2015 license agreement finally gets rid of the phrase "Quicken Connected Service" that they had tried for several years but really only appeared in the license agreements and nowhere much else that I can find.

CONTENT: The License agreements have gotten progressively looser with the definition of CONTENT and the freedom and responsibility of Intuit with whatever CONTENT might be. QW2009 mostly referred to CONTENT as information on their "Live Community". By QW2012 CONTENT is split into 3 types: The first type being poorly defined, "Community forum" content being the second type and feedback to Intuit being the third. With QW2015 there is a new clause that seems to make it clear that financial data ("all data you enter or upload") is CONTENT and other clauses say Intuit can do anything they want with it.

The license agreement "additional terms" for QW2015 should also be clearer in section 3.1 "Quicken Service" that (a) and (b) only apply to express web connect and not to direct connect (unless they are contradicting other documentation). But then, Intuit might prefer to be vague here so they can actually put themselves in the middle of direct connect at some point in the future (I do hope my direct connect banks will say emphatically "NO" to that). This clause actually first appeared in this approximate form in QW2012.

QW2015 has an extended 3rd party notice section. You can see the power of Apple there. There are 10 sub-clauses that disclaim Apple of anything to do with Intuit's product (a little under 10% of the lines of text in the whole license).

There is another "secret" inconsistency that has crept in over the years which makes no sense at all. The Intuit lawyers are not doing their job when they review the License Agreement each year and don't notice and fix it. I'll leave it to them to find and fix unless they want to pay me my hourly rate for a couple of days work to tell them what is wrong (but not how to fix it, IANAL).

Privacy Policy:

Like many web privacy policy it's as good as the paper it's printed on (i.e. nothing at all). They can change it however they want anytime they want.

The basic policy is fairly standard, reads as reasonable and has not changed since 2011.

However, some of the privacy policy implementation is poor. The opt-out link on the privacy page does not integrate with the Intuit ID. Also, I have already received third party emails related to my test Intuit ID. Probably by a well meaning but clueless Intuit mid-manager who didn't read the security section on Intuits own web site.

Stuart

I'm getting ready to purchase 2015. I know it will soon be available as a bundle with TT. Will the bundle be cheaper than it is now (50d/70p on amazon) ?

I don't use or want TT. I'm a long time taxact user.

I have never seen a Q/TT bundle priced less than the individual products. At best you end up paying a little more than the single product.

Last year at Best Buy I got the Deluxe Q and T/T bundle for about USD $108. The year before, I had bought the two individual products that together totaled USD $115. So indeed the bundle was cheaper (albeit not by much) that the individual products.

Agreed, but that's not what the OP asked, which was "will a TT/QD bundle be priced less than what QD alone is priced at today?"