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Google Groups archive (which used to belong to DejaNews) has messages back to (at least) May 1981 when there were already quite a wide variety of groups on Usenet.

Byte magazine had an article on the 'upcoming' Windows 1.0 in December 1983. I *believe* Windows 1.0 was in 1985.

Point'n'drool interfaces took a while to take off - and there was a thriving community well before that.

The higher intellectual cost-of-entry acted as a useful limit to who managed to get on there.

No offence ;-)

3.1 was the first 'useful' version. Although the command line still has it's uses. I was writing a commercial Windows App just the other day that uses it 'under the hood' as there are still things Windows is just no good at.

IME the users were people who had access at work, and had nothing better to do whilst at work.

Though there was probably a group of people who had access at college, and nothing better to do whilst at college.

tim

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:12:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, "tim....." arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... > ... > Graham Murray wrote ... > ... > ... The IBM PC was launched in 1981, ... > ... > 26 years ago. Windows was later than that, ... > ... > ... > ... "Magda" wrote ... > ... > 1992, I think. ... > ... ... > ... Don't be silly! - Win3.1 was already out by then. ... > ... Windows v1 was out in the '80s... ... > ... > No way. ... ... November 1983 to be precise ... ...

... ... Almost nobody used it

For ten years the thing was in a corner, gathering dust?

Undoubtedly. Just like now?

(There were some of us who used it for 'real' work, but then as now, there were always more interesting things to do with it...)

Way. I remember seeing it on computers around 1987 or so.

cheers, clive

If you want to think of it that way

tim

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:24:19 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, "tim....." arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... > ... ... > ... Almost nobody used it ... > ... > For ten years the thing was in a corner, gathering dust? ... ... If you want to think of it that way

Sorry, the "nobody used it" threw me off.

Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:23:29 GMT, "PC Paul" has scripted:

Wow, I haven't done that for years! Care to let us in on what you did?

[Windows]

Windows 1.0 was launched in November 1985. It was a pile of poo, a tradition that has been consistently maintained right the way up to the present day.

Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:12:03 +0100, "Clive George" has scripted:

Well, it didn't really resemble anything comparable to Windows we know today. 3.1 however, does.

Where did this gem of 'knowledge' come from?

Mac hardware is no more expensive than any other quality computer hardware. My MacBook was stupidly cheap when compared with a lot of the WinTel machines out there. The OS is actually *cheaper* than Windows if you want the same functionality.

So, in conclusion, you're talking s**te.

I agree, Windoze is hard work, MAC's rule.

Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:43:30 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) has scripted:

Windows is not bad. Not great, but better than anything else that's been available.

The alternative is to go Mac, but be prepared to change worlds - and open your wallet!

Usenet is about that old, but OE is not. The bottom posting came about because we used KSR-33 Teletypes as input devices. Was hard to edit the received stream, and you typed at the bottom of the message. The VT-52 CRT monitors were similar, so you always got bottom posting. So I guess most of these people are living in the past. I think top posting is nice for a quick response. Do not have to go the bottom of the message to see the response.

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:32:13 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "Calif Bill" arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... ... Usenet is about that old, but OE is not. The bottom posting came about ... because we used KSR-33 Teletypes as input devices. Was hard to edit the ... received stream, and you typed at the bottom of the message. The VT-52 CRT ... monitors were similar, so you always got bottom posting. So I guess most of ... these people are living in the past. I think top posting is nice for a ... quick response. Do not have to go the bottom of the message to see the ... response.

That's what snipping is for.

Well, if abandoning the concept of living in the past is the only criterion, them let's give up driving on the left. Who do these people think they are, dictating which side of the road I should drive on?

No, bad certainly does not go far enough to describe the minging pile of s**te that is Windows.

That's not even close to being true.

Made up like all of the drivel that Windows FanBoys spout.

That's complete horseshit.

With KSR-33s one didn't quote back any context. Not unless one was as mad as a box of frogs. Quoting context really came in with Vistar terminals and the like.