Motorists hit by card clone scam

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:46:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, snipped-for-privacy@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda wrote: ... ... > ... It's actually £10 - 1119 euros is £759 in sterling. The £10 difference ... > ... is due to different local taxation rates. ... > ... ... > ... You seem a bit dim, so I wouldn't expect you to understand this given ... > ... that you can't do a euro to pound conversion. ... > ... > Oh, I'm totally incapable of operating a Mac. I leave it to those whose IQ ... > is inferior to 50. ... ... Well done, you've avoided the issue again.

I don't care what you do, it's not my money going down the drain.

... Care to name all these countries and shops within mainland Europe where ... Macs are significantly more expensive than they are in the UK?

No, I don't. Go play with your little soldiers. Or to bed, you have school tomorrow.

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:49:38 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, NM arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... > ... Baah! Baah!, watch out the farmer is coming and he's got his wellies on.

Typical Mac user reaction...

They announced it it Nov 83, but did not release/sell it until Nov 85 as a GUI front-end to DOS. I don't think announcing some future event is the same as it happening. And it wasn't much use until Win 3.0 (well, to me anyway) and did not become popular until 3.1 in April 92.

MacBook Pro

Italia - EUR 2,000 (GBP 1,357.26) France - EUR 2,000 (GBP 1,357.26) Deutschland - EUR 2,000 (GBP 1,357.26) Belgique - EUR 2,019 (GBP 1,369.98) Nederland - EUR 1,989 (GBP 1,349.62) UK - EUR 1,988 (GBP 1,349.00)

And why is a Mac (slightly) cheaper in the UK than in those other countries? Because UK VAT is lower than in the other countries listed.

If you want cheaper Macs, complain to your rip-off government.

Making changes to the distribution unannounced is the sign of a complete arse, Holmes.

(FU reset)

Alan Holmes wrote:

Bzzt, wrong. ARPANET was initiated in 1969 as a tool for exploring the value of packet switched networks. The primary motivation for building ARPANET was to give a consistent method for researchers to access mainframe computers without having to use a different terminal application for each computer to be accessed.

You are talking absolute s*it, the first email was not sent until 1973. And the chances of you having access to one of the 9 hosts available in the 1960s is nil. The chances of you having access to ARPANET before the separation of MILNET from ARPANET in 1984 is also nil.

Indeed the possibility of any grown up allowing you to play with a computer is probably zero.

No, it wasn't "a little bit over the top" it was complete and utter c*ck. There wasn't even a platform available to run OE on in 1972. The first version of Windows wasn't available until 1985, and OE didn't appear, named as Outlook Express until Windows 95 OSR2.

It has been around for not much more than a decade, with many problems.

The early versions did not allow the user to back up the address book, and were just about 100% non standards compliant. And Outlook Express was notorious for beign broken from its first implementation and insecure from version 4.0 onwards.

OE permits a remote application to over-ride all its security features, and uses Internet Explorer as a rendering engine so that even if you don't use IE, OE makes damn sure that every security vulnerability in IE is your problem.

The only way that anyone could declare that OE has been around with "no problems" is to be terminally stupid or to have their head so far up their own arse that they cannot smell the coffee.

The only problem you have is being dumber than a Cocker Spaniel. A Cocker Spaniel that has been used for mysterious and terrifying experiments in practical lobotomy.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:39:45 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda wrote: ... ... > You only saw one price - check better, in several shops, in several ... > countries. Macs are always more expensive in the end. ... ... MacBook Pro ... ... Italia - EUR 2,000 (GBP 1,357.26) ... France - EUR 2,000 (GBP 1,357.26) ... Deutschland - EUR 2,000 (GBP 1,357.26) ... Belgique - EUR 2,019 (GBP 1,369.98) ... Nederland - EUR 1,989 (GBP 1,349.62) ... UK - EUR 1,988 (GBP 1,349.00) ... ... And why is a Mac (slightly) cheaper in the UK than in those other ... countries? Because UK VAT is lower than in the other countries listed. ... ... If you want cheaper Macs, complain to your rip-off government.

Now, compare that to the price of PCs.

Funny, how you can't keep up with the subject of the discussion...

Then leave the country immediately.

You said

"Check the prices in Europe - Macs' go though the roof."

And you were talking crap.

Funny how you can't even remember what you said.

And comparing like for like,

A 17" laptop from Red Submarine, a real no-name brand with a headline price of £1200 from

Well by the time you finish upgrading it to have:

Then the price rises to £2093.01 compared to £1899 for a MacBook Pro with the same spec. And of course for the Windows laptop you're going to have to fork out extra for a basic set of applications, whereas the MacBook comes with a free installation of iLife and you can use it right out of the box.

Funny how you can't keep up with the crap you spout. Funny how you're a brainless troll.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:14:07 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, snipped-for-privacy@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... ... Funny how you can't keep up with the crap you spout. Funny how you're a ... brainless troll.

You really are a Mac user... IQ inferior to 50.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:50:45 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, snipped-for-privacy@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda wrote: ... ... > I'm not French, Einstein. ... ... Then leave the country immediately.

Sit down and wait. I'll fetch a bone for you.

So you admit you were talking crap. Now drop dead.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:28:20 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, snipped-for-privacy@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda wrote: ... ... > On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:14:07 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, ... > snipped-for-privacy@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) arranged some electrons, so they ... > looked like this: ... > ... > ... ... > ... Funny how you can't keep up with the crap you spout. Funny how you're a ... > ... brainless troll. ... > ... > You really are a Mac user... IQ inferior to 50. ... ... So you admit you were talking crap. Now drop dead.

No, I don't. But your mouth is obviously FULL of it - enjoy!

If you want bottom posting like it was always done, then you can not snip.

You just added onto the message.

Yeah - "here we go again" indeed. Last time we did this you, Martin and Barbara made fools of yourselves. Is your memory really *so* short?

B;

(Steve

Check them yourself - but make a better job of it than Martin and Barbara did.

B;

Oh Lord - here's where Martin comes in with prices for a completely different Dell : :-)

B;

SteveH ( snipped-for-privacy@italiancar.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Yes, it can.

IBM don't make PC hardware any more - Lenova are rapidly losing the quality reputation that ThinkPads in particular have.

Compaq as a brand is a PCWorld special these days, and HP hardware is generic corporate-bargain-bucket.

And this is a recommendation?

Steve Firth (%steve%@malloc.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

1650+vat for a MacBook Pro to that spec, BUT with a lower resolution (1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200) screen.