I'm concerned that 02/genie may try and trace me (location). Are there any phones that allow you to stay private

In message , Jon writes

If charges are unlawful then they are unlawful. The reasons behind them are entirely irrelevant.

As someone already said, O2 can pass your details to its own agents if you default with them, like how much you owe, and not to other companies

Instead of inventing and spreading around a load of paranoid bollocks, read about it on the O2 website, call 1300 free and choose the location services privacy settings you want

However, if you really insist on being taxed on your own stupidity, I am sure you could still find a couple of bullshit websites that would con you into paying about £250 for a foreign pay-as-you-go SIM with a few quid credit on

In fact, I wouldn't be at all amazed if you were suddenly to start spamming one of them yourself - eg, look what I stumbled into

Simon Finnigan wrote: || ||| Get off your high horse or shut up if you have no useful advice. || || Perhaps if you wheren`t trying to steal then people might want to || help you.

If not paying someone what you owe them was considered stealing, then I suggest we may need quite a few more prisons. Then we can start to populate them with the worst offenders, those that go under for millions of pounds of other peoples money.

Well i`d have no problems with that.

Yes, debtors prisons. Why stop there, how about re-introducing the birch, village stocks and the ducking stool.

Best thing that could happen in this country today and it would have far better effect than any asbo .

In message , snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com writes

Yes..... I forgot that no matter how outrageous one tries to be on here, there'll be some hang 'em and flog 'em merchant who'll think its a jolly good idea.

Well now Mike when some little darlings have put bricks through your windows and sprayed your car with paint and pelted nearly every house window in the street with eggs perhaps you may change your opinion . Bring back hanging and the birch allowing teachers the use of cane and slipper again would be a start ,these things are not compulsory you only receive them when you step outside the law so what's the problem ? .

In message , snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com writes

So the village stocks and the ducking stool weren't to your liking then?

As to "So what's the problem?".... I can't even be bothered to start with it because people with your views would never be open to receive any alternative view anyway.

All the alternative's have been tried and have failed miserably you only need to listen to people up and down the country regarding the subject to know this . On a personal level early in 2006 I had a tin of paint thrown on my car resulting in 1400 pounds of damage our local copper caught the little B.....D responsible full marks to her the boy admitted the offence he had no choice when police found paint on trousers in his house and he was summonsed to appear before a juvenile court . For what happened afterwards I place the full blame on the magistrates who sat the hearing not the little ....... in question . The magistrates in true do gooder tradition awarded him a sentence of six months 3 to be served in custody at a young offenders institution and 3 in the community which was much much to lenient in my opinion and off he went to start the term . A week after the hearing the darling boy got cleaver and appealed against sentence and whatdoyaknow Mr do gooder magistrates reduced the sentence to one of four months in custody and three served in the community and Blair says they are being tough on crime!! . I honestly do not know who I would like to kick the balls of first the boy or the damned magistrates .

In message , snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com writes

As I said, unwilling to listen to anybody else's view anyway but at least you are open about the fact. The sentence sounds about right to me. He only got paint on your car and presumably you weren't injured as a result.

I'm sorry but I can't take anyone seriously when they say the re-introduction of hanging and flogging would be "a start". The mind boggles as to what ultimate end you would have in mind.

Has I suspected right at the start and is now confirmed you ARE a DO GOODER . I hope it dosen't happen but one day you may have cause to revise your thoughts on the subject I am not alone in mine by a very long way . End of story .

So you`d be perfectly happy if that had happened to you would you, would you still consider justice to have been done?

So the alternative is better - borrow money with no intention of ever paying it back, and leave everyone else to make up the shortfall? Meaning that people like me have to pay to support the lifestyles of the fat and lazy?

snipped-for-privacy@localhosts.net declared for all the world to hear...

Well that's allright then isn't it.

Lack of respect for other people property comes from lack of discipline both at home and at school, and the fact that parents aren't allowed to smack their children and teachers are powerless to do anything for fear of getting sued only adds fuel to the fire.

Physical punishments at school are something I would be in favour of for sure.

Capital punishment for crimes that deserve it (eg murder)- again I would be in favour.

Oh?

Lots of people have heard of the DPA, but surprisingly few know what it says under s.35.

I should think not!

In message , snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com writes

Oh, I'm back to being a do-gooder again. Last week I was a mindless thug. How strange. So, you had no idea what the ultimate end was you had in mind when you said hanging and flogging would be a start? Another one who weirdly thinks that doing good is the ultimate sin and that calling someone a do-gooder is automatically an insult. Weird. Weird. Weird.

In message , Simon Finnigan writes

The lad threw paint on a car and was punished for it. Yes, justice has been done. I note that those who are suggesting otherwise aren't suggesting what they would see as a suitable sentence other than the person who wants them hanged and flogged.

In message , Simon Finnigan writes

This group really does bring out the prejudiced, hate filled and unthinking amongst us doesn't it. Anybody who thinks that people in debt are people who borrowed with no intention of paying it back is an idiot. Anybody who thinks that people who are often depressed to the point of being on the brink of suicide by their debt problems are fat and lazy and enjoying a fabulous lifestyle is an idiot.