I'm concerned that 02/genie may try and trace me (location). Are there any phones that allow you to stay private

snipped-for-privacy@despammed.com declared for all the world to hear...

What's the answer then?

Locking large numbers of people up, marking them as 'criminals', pushing them further into a life of crime, possibly putting them in an environment where drug abuse is endemic sounds like a problem to me.

And, regarding "who knows until we try it"; what about closing all prisons and releasing the inmates- it might work.

Think of all the money we could save - not just in the prisons, but police, governent etc. There would be no need for any laws if we weren't going to enforce them. We could all live in a happy state of anarchy!

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Ah, but what the criminals get up to *inside* prison, does not affect the law-abiding people on the *outside*.

So there's no cause for concern there!

Oh excellent..... so all we need is to set up a larger area, say Newcastle for example, and declare it a law-free zone where all crime is acceptable. We tell the law-abiding people to leave and we send all criminals there to live and put a big fence round it.

"Mike_B" wrote

An EXCELLENT idea - glad you agree! [Why not use the Isle of Wight? ;-) ]

load of bollox.. get a life..

ITYM 'France'.

Send all the world's criminals over there.

Don't they all live there anyway?

It most certainly does not. There are more crimes committed inside prisons than outside.

No, that's been tried, and although it does prevent re-offending, it does not act as an effective deterrent. The opposite in many cases, for reasons that this isn't the place to explain.

What would I suggest as an alternative? You want a simple answer to a question that has defied societies all over the world for generations? I'm touched by your faith in me, but I have to admit that I don't have a simple answer.

What I do know is that when something has the opposite effect to what you want, it is bloody stupid to keep using that method and not looking at a better alternative.

It has been tried. It is counter-productive. Have you starter reading the Daily Hate Mail? I'm sure you weren't as ridiculous as this in the past.

No, this is the marginal charge for the activity. The equipment, capital, energy and everything else are already covered by other aspects of the PFI swindle.

He's the only marginal cost involved.

If only that were true. Yes, it does get used for new buildings (our local hospital was partly demolished and rebuilt that way), but it also takes over old ones.

Tell that to Blair! I can't think of a single thing his mob have done which

*hasn't* had the opposite effect to that intended! [Iraq, NHS targets, education reforms, Part-P - to name but a few!]

Seems to me the main purpose of PFI is to put large quantities of public money into the pockets of this Govs friends, namely big businesses that later support the partys re-election funds.

The beauty of it is the deniability of that's what it's really all about, and allowing it to manipulate short term treasury figures

Steve Terry

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That is one purpose but the main purpose is to hide Government borrowing by putting it 'off balance sheet'.

snipped-for-privacy@despammed.com declared for all the world to hear...

No I dont take the daily thank you. It's just something which I have a strongish opinion on.

I'm rather reasonable in most other areas of discussion :-)

You're way out of date. The latest mobiles (at least stateside) have automatic GPS facility accessable by the pigs. (Just for your protection of course).

There is too much disinformation in this field for me to believe that without seeing the source data.